The North Korean Situation

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morbo wrote:

I suppose that South Korea also does not want to take care for the impoverished brothers up north, in a post-war scenario. An "unification" of both Koreas would be an economic suicide for the South and probably a political suicide in long term (who would wanna give the right to vote to millions of brainwashed communists?). I don't think the South is enthusiast about a war, even in a scenario where no direct military damage happens to them.

If a war happens and the regime is destroyed, who will occupy NK? The Chinese? Maybe Trump has made a deal with Xi, to turn NK into a Chinese puppet state or "special province". The Chinese have a few millions of excess men to use as fodder & settlers, so an occupation would be a piece of cake for them. The US & SK contribute the fireworks and China picks up the pieces afterwards?

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morbo wrote:

I suppose that South Korea also does not want to take care for the impoverished brothers up north, in a post-war scenario. An "unification" of both Koreas would be an economic suicide for the South and probably a political suicide in long term (who would wanna give the right to vote to millions of brainwashed communists?). I don't think the South is enthusiast about a war, even in a scenario where no direct military damage happens to them.

If a war happens and the regime is destroyed, who will occupy NK? The Chinese? Maybe Trump has made a deal with Xi, to turn NK into a Chinese puppet state or "special province". The Chinese have a few millions of excess men to use as fodder & settlers, so an occupation would be a piece of cake for them. The US & SK contribute the fireworks and China picks up the pieces afterwards?

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I dunno WHY you would wanna provoke a fucking super power out of all things.

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innervation wrote:

I disagree on SK, I think they very much want to take care of their brothers up north

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morbo wrote:

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innervation wrote:

I disagree on SK, I think they very much want to take care of their brothers up north

Yeah, but the economic cost would be massive. Imagine half of your country lives in a parallel universe that is technologically in the 60s and the education system is a brainwashing system designed to make people hate democracy & capitalism. Then you have to integrate this population somehow in your democratic & capitalist society, without ruining your economy and shooting yourself in the foot politically. This would be a massive operation, probably taking generations.

Anyway, here's that Posobiec guy on PJW: Source: Military Strike on North Korea Coming Soon

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With everyone putting down new and/or revised "red lines", be it on Syria or North Korea, it was now China's turn to reveal its "red" or rather "bottom line", and in a harshly worded editorial titled "The United States Must Not Choose a Wrong Direction to Break the DPRK Nuclear Deadlock on Wednesday" Beijing warned it would attack North Korea's facilities producing nuclear bombs, effectively engaging in an act of war, if North Korea crosses China's "bottom line."

The editorial in the military-focused Global Times tabloid, owned and operated by the Communist Party's People's Daily newspaper, said that North Korea’s nuclear activities must not jeopardize northeastern China, and that if the North impacts China with its illicit nuclear tests through either "nuclear leakage or pollution", then China will respond with force.

“China has a bottom line that it will protect at all costs, that is, the security and stability of northeast China... If the bottom line is touched, China will employ all means available including the military means to strike back. By that time, it is not an issue of discussion whether China acquiesces in the US’ blows, but the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) will launch attacks to DPRK nuclear facilities on its own."

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But what may be the most notable part of the oped is the mention in the Global Times editorial that North Korea will not be "not allowed to have a government that is hostile against China on the other side of the Yalu River." This implies that if and when the US initiate strikes on NK, the Chinese PLA will likely send out troops "to lay the foundation" for a favorable post-war situation.

In other words, China may be just waiting for Trump to "decapitate" the North Korean regime, to pounce and immediately fill the power vacuum.

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morbo wrote:

Yeah, but the economic cost would be massive. Imagine half of your country lives in a parallel universe that is technologically in the 60s and the education system is a brainwashing system designed to make people hate democracy & capitalism. Then you have to integrate this population somehow in your democratic & capitalist society, without ruining your economy and shooting yourself in the foot politically.