You killed Zana in standard?

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Astarte911 wrote:

New zana is godly. Finally some real mods, not just League mods.

Map to easy ? Get the free iiq/iir per inc dmg or life
Map to hard ? Just make it full of spiders.

Feelsgoodman.

*Godly*


Got 1,500 Leather Belts to chance? Oh, fuck.
Got 500 Moonstone Rings to chance? Hmmm, damn.
35,000 Perandus coins sat? Errrm, whatidowitdees?
Like putting Ambush on your Vaults farming cards? Nope.
Tailoring map rolls, sextants and Zana League mods for whatever you are seeking (cards/XP/maps)? Too bad.

Feelskickedinthenadsman.

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cronus wrote:

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Perq wrote:

Why did they change it in Standard that does not have league stones is beyond retarded.

my guess:

having the zana mods in one league for free and charging players 3c for the same feature in another league would have resulted in players calling it "retarded" and a "shit in the face of standard players" as well as [insert buzzword here].

I see what you mean, and kinda agree that there would have been complaints anyway; but it's not really the same feature - Zana ambush added 4 strongboxes, stones guarantees one, and so on - and it's not RNG gated, so the paywall for Standard could be justified.
And would be a lot better than actual Zana mods imho.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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LMTR14 wrote:

morons. it might be the BEST thing about the entire league that the fucking paywall for league mods is gone!

Oh the paywall for league mods is shit. I agree.

Nobody is complaining about removing the paywall, they removed the fucking access, period.


Baby meet bathwater.

for 3-4 months, like I said. I mean what is that compared to other ggg decisions? it is negligible.

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LMTR14 wrote:

morons. it might be the BEST thing about the entire league that the fucking paywall for league mods is gone! leaguestones HAVE to come to standard, so a 3-4 months crappy zana is a small price to pay

Maybe they will revert it. It does feel like that. Alot of criticism against legacy tbh

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LMTR14 wrote:

for 3-4 months, like I said. I mean what is that compared to other ggg decisions? it is negligible.

I can answer your question with 1 word.

"what is that compared to other ggg decisions?"

Unnecessary.

just a cheap trick to push players into leagues.
like that's ever gonna work haha..

time for chris to set up a meeting with his brother imo,
maybe ask again what happened when he tried to tell people how to play their game.

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Perq wrote:

Why did they change it in Standard that does not have league stones is beyond retarded.

Yes, this really is the biggest bullshit since day one. Raping standard this way really is beyond stupid!

Didn't they say once that less than 1% of players ever make it to maps? One has to wonder just how much they have to lose by ticking off the endgame crowd.

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suszterpatt wrote:

Didn't they say once that less than 1% of players ever make it to maps? One has to wonder just how much they have to lose by ticking off the endgame crowd.

Sacrifice of the Vaal (Atziri) and Atlas of Worlds were both major expansions aimed directly at the end-game crowd. Obviously these players mean a lot to GGG.

Forsaken Masters, Awakening (A4), and Ascendancy (+Lab) was aimed at pre-endgame players. And Fall of Oriath seems aimed at pre-endgame players as well due to all the pre-maps rebalance.

So in total:
- SotV: Maps
- Awakening: Pre
- Ascendancy: Pre
- Atlas of Worlds: Maps
- Fall of Oriath/3.0: Pre

Looks like a pattern might be emerging, even.

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Saltygames wrote:

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LMTR14 wrote:

morons. it might be the BEST thing about the entire league that the fucking paywall for league mods is gone! leaguestones HAVE to come to standard, so a 3-4 months crappy zana is a small price to pay

Maybe they will revert it. It does feel like that. Alot of criticism against legacy tbh

I doubt they'll revert it. There's a couple ways it could shake out....but my suspicion is we won't get league stones. We'll get a list of 25 mods to add to maps with scaling costs. Which, if they think spiders is worth 3 or 4c....I can't wait to see what they would price actual league mods at. "Oh you want Perandus? Cough up a Divine or two please."

I mean, what better currency sink for standard than inviting players to spend dozens of chaos on top of their map rerolls for a single map? Seems like the kind of thing you do when you're trying to figure out how to keep your economy valid for another 4 or 5 years.