Ryan's all-round Summoner Build.

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Leth4l wrote:
Verry nice work.

I can see you have put a lot of effort in it and it looks clean.

Only 1 thing its not realy allround more a Pure summoner build

Other than that you have made a nice guide.


Thanks for the feedback, but when I say all-round, I meant that it covers each aspect of combat by using auras and curses for your team, does great dps and can somewhat tank for the group. So in other words, it fits into every roll in the game.

Another thing that could be possible is to swap the spell totem on your Skeletons to Rejuvenation to support the team even more. However, you'd need to manually summon the Skeletons yourself.
Good guide.

Just to make your guide a bit better try to check off the BBCode before you post your build

Tweaked'

I tweaked this b/c

1. You picked up EB, which means the energy shield nodes wouldn't be as efficient, there is no need for 3-4k mana. I have 2k mana and can use 5-6 auras

2. EB means aura stacking so inner force is required.

3. No need for any resist nodes b/c of purity + gear

4. chaos damage can be just as effectively mitigated with a large hp pool

5. Grabbed the 30dex node bc I know your gonna need it I been through that already. Dex to increase your haste/GMP/Chain gem level

Here are my thoughts on no dmg shock stacking

I use elemental proliferation


This coupled with a faster spell casting/spell damage wand (I don't have one) can effectively shock even end game maps. You only require one mob in pack to be shocked for everything to be shocked.

Your potions could use an upgrade. I use 3 minion hp hollowed flasks, and 2 quicksilvers.
With EB and clarity you don't need any MP pots. Also speed is greater then 4000 armor. Run away from danger not tank it.

My guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/107541
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
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VenturaD wrote:
Very nice build ryan,would you mind writing down your stats?resists/hp etc also does this build perform well in end game and maps?


As long as you have the resists, this games performs very well in end-game maps. It can offer you 50% physical reduction as well if you are using a shield, without you can still hit around 35% with the correct gear.

The DPS minions output is much greater than any other build I have ever tried, and because you will have Zombies and Skeletons inbetween you and your enemies, the chances of you getting attacked are very slim.

There are points where you will get attacked though. Whether it's from a stray projectile or an enemy that is ignoring your minions and coming straight for you (this happens sometimes). That's what the physical resistance stacking is for. Also, I'm sure you have come across enemies that use 'Puncture' in maps. These with no physcial resistance means losing nearly all of your health, if not dying.

I am going to be uploading a video showing how the build performs hopefully later today.

EDIT: My resists are all currently at 77% with purity, physical resistance is currently only at 23% as I'm missing some of the Body and Soul nodes, as well as using Queen's Decree.

My health is currently at 2474, and my Energy Shield is currently at 485 without Discipline. I have not been round to picking up any ES nodes yet.
Last edited by Ryan1745 on Feb 22, 2013, 10:34:40 AM
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mattc3303 wrote:
Good guide.

Just to make your guide a bit better try to check off the BBCode before you post your build

Tweaked'

I tweaked this b/c

1. You picked up EB, which means the energy shield nodes wouldn't be as efficient, there is no need for 3-4k mana. I have 2k mana and can use 5-6 auras

2. EB means aura stacking so inner force is required.

3. No need for any resist nodes b/c of purity + gear

4. chaos damage can be just as effectively mitigated with a large hp pool

5. Grabbed the 30dex node bc I know your gonna need it I been through that already. Dex to increase your haste/GMP/Chain gem level

Here are my thoughts on no dmg shock stacking

I use elemental proliferation


This coupled with a faster spell casting/spell damage wand (I don't have one) can effectively shock even end game maps. You only require one mob in pack to be shocked for everything to be shocked.

Your potions could use an upgrade. I use 3 minion hp hollowed flasks, and 2 quicksilvers.
With EB and clarity you don't need any MP pots. Also speed is greater then 4000 armor. Run away from danger not tank it.

My guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/107541


The guide has the +30 dex node in it. People may want to pick this up while leveling if they need extra dex for LMP/GMP.

You'd be suprised how hard it is to come across gear with the right amount of resists without paying out loads fo exalts in this build. You miss out on 5 items that can give you resists, leaving you with only 1 ring, helmet, gloves and boots. I also mentioned that if your resists are fine as they are not to pick up the resist nodes.

Chaos resist hels in maps where you take Chaos damage/sec. The only reason for this is because it's not easy at all to get health regen gear in this build as there are much more important armour modifications.

Lastly, I don't understand why you use 3 flaks with minion healing. With or without the use of Warlord's Mark, I find it extremely hard to run out of charges for 1 alone, so I think having 3 is a complete waste.
Last edited by Ryan1745 on Feb 22, 2013, 10:27:27 AM


I literally found these on the floor covers my resist quite nicely.

3 HP flasks for those dire moments when you and your minions need high hp regeneration. (No need for hp regen gear when you pot spam) Also have you faced maps with no regeneration? Its horrible you need like 3 hp pots and 2 mana pots.

Sometimes I run with 3 quick silvers.

Chaos resist can be taken care of with good micro the 16% node is understandable but the double 6% too? Good Micro > any macro component of the game.


EDIT: where and how much was that curse Ring =X I want that soooo bad.








Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303 on Feb 22, 2013, 10:46:38 AM
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mattc3303 wrote:


I literally found these on the floor covers my resist quite nicely.

3 HP flasks for those dire moments when you and your minions need high hp regeneration. (No need for hp regen gear when you pot spam) Also have you faced maps with no regeneration? Its horrible you need like 3 hp pots and 2 mana pots.

Sometimes I run with 3 quick silvers.

Chaos resist can be taken care of with good micro the 16% node is understandable but the double 6% too? Good Micro > any macro component of the game.


I'm still not convinced 3 minion healing potions are necessary at all. It takes 5.3 seconds for the effect of one to wear off, and by then, your minions would have already killed another 5 or so mobs, granting you more than enough charges to 1 more use of the flask, thus making 3 a waste of space.

I really don't understand why you are overlooking the use of a 'Seething' life flask. These are almost essential at any high end maps, as you will face moments where you are in danger and need to heal up quickly.

Also, what's with 3 Quicksilver flasks? If they're used just to run out of danger, you will only need 1, 2 max. The 2nd can replace the 5th mana flask if the 2nd Granite flask isn't needed. But 3 I believe is also a waste of space.

EDIT: Note that I'm currently using Queen's Decree so I can't have the resists from a shield.
Last edited by Ryan1745 on Feb 22, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
Hmmm I shall try a seething then. I usually never have trouble if you position yourself correctly.

Sounds good. Good job on the guide.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
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Ryan1745 wrote:
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mattc3303 wrote:


I literally found these on the floor covers my resist quite nicely.

3 HP flasks for those dire moments when you and your minions need high hp regeneration. (No need for hp regen gear when you pot spam) Also have you faced maps with no regeneration? Its horrible you need like 3 hp pots and 2 mana pots.

Sometimes I run with 3 quick silvers.

Chaos resist can be taken care of with good micro the 16% node is understandable but the double 6% too? Good Micro > any macro component of the game.


I'm still not convinced 3 minion healing potions are necessary at all. It takes 5.3 seconds for the effect of one to wear off, and by then, your minions would have already killed another 5 or so mobs, granting you more than enough charges to 1 more use of the flask, thus making 3 a waste of space.

I really don't understand why you are overlooking the use of a 'Seething' life flask. These are almost essential at any high end maps, as you will face moments where you are in danger and need to heal up quickly.

Also, what's with 3 Quicksilver flasks? If they're used just to run out of danger, you will only need 1, 2 max. The 2nd can replace the 5th mana flask if the 2nd Granite flask isn't needed. But 3 I believe is also a waste of space.

EDIT: Note that I'm currently using Queen's Decree so I can't have the resists from a shield.


I don't think using Queen's decree to have a few extra minions is worth it. Minions die so fast in Map runs anyway.
IGN: PervyMonk
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mattc3303 wrote:


I literally found these on the floor...


That is not how I remember that going down... :p
Last edited by GoatEatingToilet on Feb 22, 2013, 3:27:48 PM
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mattc3303 wrote:


I literally found these on the floor...


That is not how I remember that going down... :p


Lol, like how we spent all our currencies trying to bid out each other =X
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon

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