Hillary Clinton

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

Attacking innocent people is always wrong. Blaming a whole religion is wrong as well.
If you don´t agree on that, there´s something wrong with you people.

The terror group that calls itself Islamic State consists of many young idiots/(former) criminals, that don´t even know much about their religion, they are in no way representatives.

e.g.: http://abcnews.go.com/International/jihadists-computers-80-percent-full-porn-official/story?id=40564987

wow you seem to know a lot about Muslim religion, can you tell me why in the Coran the last texts take authority on the older ones? Then enlighten me about the content of those last texts and what they are saying in particular about other religious group and non believers please. I want to know more about those parts supposed to define how a Muslim should act toward non muslim. Then I want to know if a Muslim should be able to interpret or discard part of the Coran and how it impact those last texts about infidels.

Is a muslim discarding the last commandments of Allah about the indidels a good muslim or should he submit to the text in it s perfect order without discarding anything?

MAke research then tell us about it, I really want to know.

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About Hillary in the debate she looked really boring close to Trump. Trump acted like a baby sometime but he did that all the time during his campaign and she failed in the debate to adapt to trump ways.

She was stuck in the old format of tv debate while her opponent broke all the rules.

She could had won it clearly since Trump did not attack about her past political acts but she was too stiff.

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

Attacking innocent people is always wrong.

Surely, we can agree to make an exception for attacking innocent women and children at night time with a catapult - after all it's Tai'f!

<that was sarcasm and ...



I would agree with the statement: "Attacking innocent people is always wrong." Unfortunately, the people committing these heinous acts do not see anything wrong with attacking innocents.

How does a random person on the street know if some other person is innocent or not? Unless there is some proof one way or the other that a person is innocent, an assumption is being made.

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

Blaming a whole religion is wrong as well.

That sounds reasonable to me. Are we talking absolutes though? If some wacko were to concoct a religion, whose sole purpose was to promote as much suffering as possible and ultimately destroy all life on Earth, would holding that religion be wrong?

At what point, do you hold a mindset responsible for the actions it engenders, and what point do you say the mindset is irrelevant?

Here's the scenario:

If you see a car on fire you might call the fire department. If you notice that a person carrying balloons set the car on fire, you might remember that. If several thousand cars caught fire over the past year and 98% of those fires were started by clowns at night, you might remember that too.

So, you see this guy walking around your neighborhood at night. Do you act Clownophobic and call the police or not?



"Wisconsin residents are calling police, asking about a disheveled clown walking through Green Bay with four black balloons."

"This person is not breaking the law," said Captain Kevin Warych of the Green Bay Police Department. "He can walk in a clown costume anywhere he wants."

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

If you don´t agree on that, there´s something wrong with you people.

When people forget that the human brain is not a computer running an exact algorithm, they derive incorrect answers.

If you've ever smelled something and had a memory come to mind (pleasant, or unpleasant) you've experienced the interaction of the older parts of your brain (in which the sensorium and emotions lie) and the newer frontal cortex.

When you smell freshly baked bread, do you notice your appetite kicking in a bit whether you actually need to eat or not?

We are not machines. At, least not yet. Anyone who thinks people are governed strictly by rational frontal cortex thinking isn' paying attention to the world around them. There is a large mix of emotional thinking and logical thinking in all of our actions and decisions.

Trumpophobia is a good example. The amount of detest, loathing, outright fear and emotional thinking by many does not match up with his actions, words or potential actions.

Hillariophobia is the same thing, from a different perspective.

As Hillary said last night, "'We all have implicit biases"

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

The terror group that calls itself Islamic State consists of many young idiots/(former) criminals, that don´t even know much about their religion, they are in no way representatives.

Who would count as representative? Would a pope, or maybe a a founder of a religion count as representative? A little research and reading would give a more intimate understanding. A cursory glance on most typical sites will not give you any useful information. If the site includes caravans, raids, destruction of idols, and lots of details, locations and dates, you might be getting something worth reading. If words like "disrobed" are omitted, than you are looking at censored, filtered, dubious information.

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Schmodderhengst wrote:

e.g.: http://abcnews.go.com/International/jihadists-computers-80-percent-full-porn-official/story?id=40564987

http://www.salon.com/2015/01/15/why_porn_is_exploding_in_the_middle_east_partner/

"According to data released by Google, six of the top eight porn-searching countries are Muslim states. Pakistan tops the list at number one, followed by Egypt at number two. Iran, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and Turkey come in at numbers four, five, seven and eight, respectively. Pakistan leads the way in porn searches for . . "


Or you can check here:


https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Pornography





“They are among them.”

It's very clear, however, that normal clowns aren't terrorist clowns. And I don't mean wearing all black.

I was in Afghanistan. There were trainings. "Shoot clowns that do this; don't shoot clowns that don't." And I'm pretty sure we didn't ask if they were actually clowns before shooting, because that part was irrelevant. Point being, distinguishing between terrorist and non-terrorist clowns is but only possible, it's trainable.

Terrorism is bad. Being a clown is... still bad, IMHO. But much less so.
Banning an entire religion is, even in my view, as silly as a law against clowns. I'm not really of the opinion that religion is any more helpful to people than clowns are - meaning little to no help - but fuck it, what's the harm, really? It's not like there's any rational correlation between clowns and terrorism. Perhaps a real one, but irrational nevertheless.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

It's very clear, however, that normal clowns aren't terrorist clowns

You are right. This kind of Coulrophobia (fear of clowns) must stop now! It isn't as if there has been a mass uprising of clowns terrifying people.

As the New York Times reports:

"None of this sits well with clowns. Mike Becvar, a professional clown who goes by the name Sir Toony Van Dukes and who runs the website Just For Clowns, said anxiety about the incidents is being needlessly stoked by national news coverage."

Hmm? What sort of clown terrorism incidents are they talking about?

Kentucky: On Friday, police arrested a man "dressed as a clown lurking in a wooded area" in the small town of Middlesboro, as the BBC reported. Jonathan Martin, 20, "was charged with wearing a mask in a public place and disorderly conduct," after police found him "crouching among trees by an apartment complex."


Alabama: "Seven, including two adults and five juveniles, face felony charges of making a terrorist threat. One juvenile faces a child in need of supervision charge. And the other, also a juvenile, faces a misdemeanor harassing communications charge from an incident in Rainbow City. "We wanted to make an example and crack down on clown-related activity in our city," said Rainbow City Police Chief Jonathon Horton."

"Two more Alabama schools were on lockdown today after a social media posts and phoned-in threat warned "clowns" might show up at two Birmingham area schools."

Arizona: "PHOENIX (KPHO/KTVK) - Three teens have been arrested in a recent rash of "scary clown" threats targeting two dozen schools. Police say that over the past several days, there have been dozens of social media posts threatening the safety of students at various high schools. Almost all of the threats include a "scary clown" image. "

Illinois: GRANITE CITY, IL (KTVI) - On Wednesday, the Granite City Police Department posted information on its Facebook page about creepy clown sightings around town. olice said they’ve responded to at least five calls and were unable to find the pranksters. It’s believed a group is going around Granite City and scaring random people.

Tenessee: "BREAKING: Teen Reports Attack By Knife-Wielding Clown In Tennessee . The Coffee County Sheriff’s Department says they have received a report about a clown attacking a juvenile in the Summitville area."

North Carolina: Greensboro police responded to an apartment complex on Old Oak Ridge Road at about 10 am Tuesday, September 6. Greensboro police say on Tuesday night, a person dressed a clown--wearing "a clown mask, red curly wig, yellow spotted shirt, blue clown pants and clown shoes" emerged from the woods surrounding an apartment complex. Witnesses say another bystander got out a machete and chased the jester back into the woods."

Pennsylvania: State police have received reports of clown sightings in multiple counties. Police are investigating an incident in Ebensburg, where a woman reported a clown peeping in through her window. The AP also an incident near Pottsville, which Pottsville Police Chief Richard Wojciechowsky characterized as a prank: " 'Two knuckleheads with clown-like clothes on' hopped out of a pickup truck and yelled at a group of young children and teenagers."
"Friday, the property manager of Fleetwood Manor Apartments warned of a “clown or a person dressed in clown clothing” who was “trying to lure children in the woods."



South Carolina: The Greenville County Sheriff’s Office is investigating clown complaints. In the incident report, one woman said she saw “several clowns in the woods flashing green laser lights” Pat Oglesby, said that he chased after the clowns and heard them carrying chains as they ran away. Two women who live at the apartment said that they came close to catching the clowns, but that the clowns escaped in a black Honda. One of the women said there were two clowns running on foot and a third one was the getaway driver.

Rational is only part of who we are. If it is the only thing we are, then we might as well be here:

Wasnt it last year or so that France had a problem with violent clowns?

Didnt pay too much attention, but what is exactly is going on? are people just playing a bit too much space station 13?

I wonder what jugallos think about this

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Disrupted wrote:

Wasnt it last year or so that France had a problem with violent clowns?

2014, iirc. Young french vigilantes took the the streets with knives and bats, and then the government cracked down on both sides. Evidently the evil big nosed ones have been plotting in their clown caves ever since.

UPDATE: In the hours since the first clown post, the problem has gotten worse:

"Reports of “killer clowns” have emerged in three new states, as Virginia, Florida and Colorado struggle with Internet rumors and reported sightings that have left several towns shaken."

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Disrupted wrote:

Didnt pay too much attention, but what is exactly is going on?

It's the


Outside of a few close family friends, few know the real story behind Einstein's famous equation E=MC2. The "M" is actually for more. The "C" isn't for the speed of light but represents clowns. C2 was Enstein's short hand for a recurring event (since clowns aren't really decimals) The E represents a scream "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! = More Clowns Clowns Clowns Clowns Clowns

With the discovery of the Higgz Bozon, it was just a matter of time.


If we get too many clowns and they all try to get back into a clown car, we will have a critical mass, and instead of a big bang, the universe will get destroyed in a giant honk.
They do a better job of explaining the clown car physics hear:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/the-physics-of-clown-cars-feature

All that's left is for the people to choose the the new clown overlord:

I used to have nightmares about clowns when I was a child, whew they are creepy

Tronald Dump got rekt in the debate, enuff said.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

Tronald Dump got rekt in the debate, enuff said.

Absolutely wrecked, entrails everywhere, blood spewing five miles in the air, the sickly sweet smell of charred flesh...

"rekt" is hyperbole. The concept that either side was "rekt" is silly. The performance of both sides was lackluster. Each made a few meaningful points, there were some personal attacks and neither candidate presented anything remotely like a cohesive strategy or a grand vision. The idea that this debate was about scoring points may mean something to media pundits who make money writing about it, but in the context of the election something else entirely was going on here.

Hillary didn't fall over and collapse - she looked healthy, which lets her campaign move past that issue. Neither side won anything on credibility.

Hillary's goal was to appear strong and eliminate the health questions. Trump's goal was to control his temper and not say anything new that would allow the media to go off in a new direction.

People aren't voting because of rational thoughts. Neither of these two candidates would be the final choices if they were. It is emotional based, and the election will largely be decided by people voting against the candidate they hate the most.

Hate the most. Fear and mistrust are transitory components of that which our brain uses to compile categories of things we don't like.

Hillary's image went from:

Dying Evil Ruler:


to

Vindictive, mostly health Evil Ruler:




While Trump went from

Dangerous Beast:


to

Mostly Harmless:



The people who plan on voting against Trump aren't doing so because they perceive Trump as weak, but because they hate him and part of that hate is fear.

The people voting against Hillary, aren't doing so because they think she doesn't have an understanding of what is going on or how nations work, but because they hate Hillary for her imperial sanctimoniousness and part of that hate is the never ending lies.

Donald removed a tiny bit of that fear and hate. Hillary only accentuated hers. Donald got out a lot of talking points that undecideds can look into for themselves, which will create further doubt on Hillary's honesty. When people learn things on their own, and learn that the source of news they trust is misleading them, it doesn't help the candidate that news source is supporting.

The firm believers in either camp won't be swayed, and they won't bother to look for details on the so called "fact checks". Most people wouldn't bother, but when they keep hearing two different stories from both sides and details are mentioned...

It's like a political version of the Jerry Springer show, and the voting audience will turn on either side because they dislike both sides. They don't like the unemployed drug using mom with seven kids and seven dads and they don't like unemployed drug using dad number seven who might be cheating with baby mama's sister.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

Tronald Dump got rekt in the debate, enuff said.

Not really. He lost, but not by much. In terms of percentages I'd say it went 60:40 for Killary.