Mechanical Questions Thread

Concerning Bleed and Poison. Are my assumptions/calculations correct?

1) Does Vulnerability kind of triple-dip on Bleeding-dmg since Bleed is phys dmg?
Base phys hit: 100
Vulnerability (20/20) on monster: 39% inc phys taken / 33% inc DoT taken
--> Bleed/s (monster not moving) = 100*(1+0.39)*0.1*(1+0.39+0.33)

2) Do applicable more multipliers double/triple-dip on Poison (or Bleed)?
Base phys proj hit: 100
Base chaos proj hit: 200
Slower Proj Gem (lvl 1): 20% more proj dmg
Phys Proj Atk Dmg Gem (lvl 1): 30% more phys proj atk dmg

Poison/s = [100*(1+0.2)*(1+0.3) + 200*(1+0.2)] * 0.08 * (1+0.2)

3) Does inc Poison double-dip on Poison?
Base chaos hit: 200
inc Poison: 10%
Poison/s = 200*(1+0.1) * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

--> To sum it up, can you say: Since Poison (or Bleed) are new dmg-instances, all applicable inc and more modifiers for poison (or Bleed) are used on them no matter if/how often they have been used for the initial hit before?

Thx a ton in advance for clarification!

I have a question about my NippleMystery Build

I am getting perme stunned by random things like Mervil's waterfall if I get caught. I tried buying Kiora's and it works when it is up, but is there anything I could be doing differently that could help the issue, apart from pure stun immunity?

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Avelaro wrote:

1) Does Vulnerability kind of triple-dip on Bleeding-dmg since Bleed is phys dmg?
Base phys hit: 100
Vulnerability (20/20) on monster: 39% inc phys taken / 33% inc DoT taken
--> Bleed/s (monster not moving) = 100*(1+0.39)*0.1*(1+0.39+0.33)

That calculation is correct (assuming, of course, no other "damage taken" modifiers like Shock).

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2) Do applicable more multipliers double/triple-dip on Poison (or Bleed)?

Yes, but it looks like you got some issues with what is applicable there (I might also just be misreading your intent).

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Base phys proj hit: 100
Base chaos proj hit: 200
Slower Proj Gem (lvl 1): 20% more proj dmg
Phys Proj Atk Dmg Gem (lvl 1): 30% more phys proj atk dmg

Poison/s = [100*(1+0.2)*(1+0.3) + 200*(1+0.2)] * 0.08 * (1+0.2)

In the current version of the game, it is not possible for anything labeled "Attack" to double dip.



Your calculation is correct, though. (Note that PPAD is only single dipping here).

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3) Does inc Poison double-dip on Poison?
Base chaos hit: 200
inc Poison: 10%
Poison/s = 200*(1+0.1) * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

No, Poisonous Hits are not Poison.

Correct calc: 200 * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

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--> To sum it up, can you say: Since Poison (or Bleed) are new dmg-instances, all applicable inc and more modifiers for poison (or Bleed) are used on them no matter if/how often they have been used for the initial hit before?

Yes, but one must be careful about what is applicable, as we have seen above :)

(Also subject to change since developers have said they are "addressing" double-dip in the future)

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adghar wrote:

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Avelaro wrote:

3) Does inc Poison double-dip on Poison?
Base chaos hit: 200
inc Poison: 10%
Poison/s = 200*(1+0.1) * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

No, Poisonous Hits are not Poison.

Correct calc: 200 * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

Ah, my fault, what I meant to write was:

3) Does inc CHAOS double-dip on Poison (since Poison is Chaos-dmg)?
Base chaos hit: 200
inc CHAOS: 10%
Poison/s = 200*(1+0.1) * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

And thx for your quick and very informative reply, much appreciated! :-)

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Avelaro wrote:

3) Does inc CHAOS double-dip on Poison (since Poison is Chaos-dmg)?
Base chaos hit: 200
inc CHAOS: 10%
Poison/s = 200*(1+0.1) * 0.08 * (1+0.1)

Yes, that's correct.

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switchblademeister wrote:

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Jackalope_Gaming wrote:

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switchblademeister wrote:

Which blade flurry enchants am i able to get from the labyrinth?

The Blade Flurry enchants are:

(25 or 40)% Increased damage
(8 or 12)% Increased AoE
(6 or 9)% chance to dodge attacks while at maximum Blade Flurry charges

Does the "# Additional maximum Blade Flurry channeled uses" Enchant not exist?

It does not exist.

Hi!

If I use the flask Divination Distillate (item rarity flask)

and I have SRS on Spell Totem, lets say I also have Culling Strike and Item Rarity on this Totem SRS.

Will the SRS be affected by flask effect? or because it is the totem that summon SRS it will not be affected by my flask effect?

Hi there

i got a quetion about added damage as an other type:
100 Fire Damage
100% increased Fire Damage
20% of Elemental Damage added as Chaos

My question is how much damage do i do?

A: 220 (100x2 (fire dmg) + 100x0.2 (chaos dmg))
or
B: 240 (100x2 (fire dmg) + 200x0.2 (chaos dmg))

thank you in advance

It would be 240. The effect of "X Added as Y" always takes into account the final damage of type X damage though the process is a bit convoluted.