[2.4 Video Guide] Righteous Fire, Vaal Molten Shell Build Guide (Large AoE) [Atziri & HC/SC Viable]

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NicoSic wrote:
Nice guide, but let's make this clear:

Righteous Fire burns you by 90% of your max HP + 70% of your max ES, so let's make some math.

If you have 5000 max HP and 200 ES, RF will degen you by 4500 per second (from HP) with 0% Fire Resistance, and 140 per second (from ES). You need to mitigate this with Fire Resistance and Life Regeneration, so how much you need? Simple, you have a formula:

Degen = (MaxHP*0.9 + MaxES*0.7) * (FireRes/100)

Degen = (5000*0.9 + 200*0.7) * (75/100)

Degen = (4640) * (0.75)

Degen = 1160 <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.

Where degen is the damage you take per second you can calculate the amount od Life Regeneration you need to sustain RF properly. Following the example of 5000 maximum hp:

5000 = 100 %
1160 = ??? % = 23.2% <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.


I hope this is a nice addition to this guide. And bro, do you even math?


Nice, thank you. I will add this to the OP if you don't mind?
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Kalastri92 wrote:
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fakabaka wrote:
nice guide, want to try RF build
but may i ask why Blade Vortex is needed?

To trigger elemental overload as in the video guide told.


I'd rather ask, since i did read pen doesnt apply to degen effects as rf but you go elementalist and eq, whats right? Also couldnt you go for damage over time jewels?

edit:nice build btw, im 69 now works great :D


I actually go Pathfinder/Trickster as the ascendant. It is true fire pen doesn't work with RF, it requires a "hit" in order to work :)

Damage over time should work yes. I will add that to the jewel section!
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what the avg dps of this build? its uber viable ? sorry for newbish of my part, im new on poe.
What about playing as Marauder with Chieftain ascendancy class?
Life regeneration/fire dmg looks rly interesting for that playstyle.
Btw thanks for build, great work as always :)
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NicoSic wrote:
Nice guide, but let's make this clear:

Righteous Fire burns you by 90% of your max HP + 70% of your max ES, so let's make some math.

If you have 5000 max HP and 200 ES, RF will degen you by 4500 per second (from HP) with 0% Fire Resistance, and 140 per second (from ES). You need to mitigate this with Fire Resistance and Life Regeneration, so how much you need? Simple, you have a formula:

Degen = (MaxHP*0.9 + MaxES*0.7) * (FireRes/100)

Degen = (5000*0.9 + 200*0.7) * (75/100)

Degen = (4640) * (0.75)

Degen = 1160 <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.

Where degen is the damage you take per second you can calculate the amount od Life Regeneration you need to sustain RF properly. Following the example of 5000 maximum hp:

5000 = 100 %
1160 = ??? % = 23.2% <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.


I hope this is a nice addition to this guide. And bro, do you even math?


Wouldn't the formula for degen be this:

Degen = (MaxHP*0.9 + MaxES*0.7) * ((100-FireRes)/100)

As the formula you posted suggests that the lower your FireRes the lower the degen, and I'm sure this isn't the case.
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iDoove wrote:
What about playing as Marauder with Chieftain ascendancy class?
Life regeneration/fire dmg looks rly interesting for that playstyle.
Btw thanks for build, great work as always :)


It can work yes, it is a decent alternative :)
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hi buddy, i am lvling with your build actualy and i got a question
instead of going to Deap vision and heart and soul (+20% max hp & 28% mana)
why don't you go to Holy fire (near avatar of fire) for +60% burning dmg
or purity of flesh (+20% max heal AND 20% chaos)
???

or mana is very important to keep cycloning and so curse + EE ?
Last edited by macenno on Apr 14, 2016, 1:08:04 PM
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fadedaura wrote:
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NicoSic wrote:
Nice guide, but let's make this clear:

Righteous Fire burns you by 90% of your max HP + 70% of your max ES, so let's make some math.

If you have 5000 max HP and 200 ES, RF will degen you by 4500 per second (from HP) with 0% Fire Resistance, and 140 per second (from ES). You need to mitigate this with Fire Resistance and Life Regeneration, so how much you need? Simple, you have a formula:

Degen = (MaxHP*0.9 + MaxES*0.7) * (FireRes/100)

Degen = (5000*0.9 + 200*0.7) * (75/100)

Degen = (4640) * (0.75)

Degen = 1160 <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.

Where degen is the damage you take per second you can calculate the amount od Life Regeneration you need to sustain RF properly. Following the example of 5000 maximum hp:

5000 = 100 %
1160 = ??? % = 23.2% <- note that this amount of life regen is for 75% fire resistance.


I hope this is a nice addition to this guide. And bro, do you even math?


Wouldn't the formula for degen be this:

Degen = (MaxHP*0.9 + MaxES*0.7) * ((100-FireRes)/100)

As the formula you posted suggests that the lower your FireRes the lower the degen, and I'm sure this isn't the case.


well, i would said the 4640 is the TOTAL degen you have
NOT THE HP DEGEN you have !!!
so when you have 75% fire res you need 25% life regen.
and with 87% (max with shield and purity)fire res you only need 13% life regen (still huge)
Is a Kaom's heart not as good as carcass jack for rf?
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JasonXtreme wrote:
Is a Kaom's heart not as good as carcass jack for rf?


Not for this build; you need a 5-link for your setup :)
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