Ele attack damage leech on tree!! wait......

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maoster wrote:

attack classes have significantly better leach, can cast anything they want with 100mana or less and rely on leech to sustain, in excess of 50,000 armour, and up to 7 endurance charges, 8k life with 10% regen, lol mana is caster attack power LOLOLOLLO play a caster, tell me how it goes, to have a caster work, you need ludicrous amountsof mana, ES AND life, if you arent playing incinerate, you might aswell play shield charge prolif for how difficult spellcasters are to play. selfcast is garbage, the right side of the tree is really really difficult to use with the lack of life, and the fact that ES isnt worth half of what life is, i would rather have 3k life with some armour than have 5k ES and waste half my mana on using clarity and still have problems casting spells

No you need to go crit on most spells otherwise its meh.

Melee don't get a perma freeze from a skill like freezing pulse or other spells you clear the screen in one hit with. Casters are fine they have had more options than melee since forever.

The thing that might be a bit OP though is flasks of iron skin, gives much more armor to melee than casters.

No casters are actually more survivable due to energy shield, if you use energy shield + life you have more effective life than melee. And as caster you don't need to get hit by melee auto attacks, you can get damage so high you kill everything very fast.

The 20% buffs to some spells will help more with that as well.

Just use what is new + Curse Aura Warlords mark and you are good to go on every melee build. Can drop completly Leech gem.

Use Warlords Aura + Leech gem, and u are good to go with ANY spell...

Spam fest with 0 thinking about sustainability...

And ppl still cry. You should be happy.

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Sogolon wrote:

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maoster wrote:

attack classes have significantly better leach, can cast anything they want with 100mana or less and rely on leech to sustain, in excess of 50,000 armour, and up to 7 endurance charges, 8k life with 10% regen, lol mana is caster attack power LOLOLOLLO play a caster, tell me how it goes, to have a caster work, you need ludicrous amountsof mana, ES AND life, if you arent playing incinerate, you might aswell play shield charge prolif for how difficult spellcasters are to play. selfcast is garbage, the right side of the tree is really really difficult to use with the lack of life, and the fact that ES isnt worth half of what life is, i would rather have 3k life with some armour than have 5k ES and waste half my mana on using clarity and still have problems casting spells

No you need to go crit on most spells otherwise its meh.

Melee don't get a perma freeze from a skill like freezing pulse or other spells you clear the screen in one hit with. Casters are fine they have had more options than melee since forever.

The thing that might be a bit OP though is flasks of iron skin, gives much more armor to melee than casters.

No casters are actually more survivable due to energy shield, if you use energy shield + life you have more effective life than melee. And as caster you don't need to get hit by melee auto attacks, you can get damage so high you kill everything very fast.

The 20% buffs to some spells will help more with that as well.

i went self cast crit ice spear, and it was pretty bad, barely pushing 20k dps, meanwhile my crit dagger, i can go block, i can go armour, i have 5 EC, i can change my golem, run any vaal skill i want, haste grace, cyclone, reave, doublestrike, lightning strike, swtiching between blood magic and fortify on my whirling blades, my offensive set up has 250k dps, my defensive set up has 80k dps if i devote a link to fortify or lifeleach, i can literally tune my melee build from between a 25k armour 75 block 85 all res 250k glass cannon to a 30k armour 75 block spell block 80k aegis tank with 90% phys reduction taste of hate and all that shet. i am literally unkillable unless i am 1shot, during combat i ahve 4000 life regen per second capped block and 85 all res, cold is 91, i can use my dual curse with assassins mark and poachers if i want dmg, or i can go ham on tankyness and use enfeeble and temp chains, and pop a pcoc in my main links(dropping phys to light).

melee has options if you care to take them, spell casters do no, they have to go EB MOM ZO, or spend a ludicrous amount of points to get mana regen, aswell as on all their gear, melee is just gert mana leech on 1 item or spend 2 points at shadow or 3 at ranger/duelist, phys leech if u can, run blood rage if you dont use ES, skills can be anything from sweep to cleave,ice crash, what ever takes your fancy, auras to get status effects as you like, defenses as you like, IR,, evasion, dodge, life, es, anything, want mobility np, use flicker, WB or LS, need aoe, np free aoe on skill, sure ok melee probably cant 1shot the whole screen from another screen away, does it matter? it has the tools to get in there and tank it up, atleast alot better than casters, not many casters have both ES and life, its normally one or the other, low life, or EB MOM ZO, which sure they get a bit more life, what 6k? easily attainable on a 2h toon, but a 2h toon also has 20k+ armour

This stance on elemental leech gos back to the start of the game when every build was an elemental damage build and was hugely OP so they killed it but in true GGG fashion forgot to put anything in its place.

You are supposed to use mana regen as leech for your spells "no no stop laughing" unfortunately due to the mana re-gen speed caps (too say nothing of needing mana for auras) you cant ever get enough to off set spammed spells so you have to use a gem slot or some elaborate build to account for it.While physical damage builds are at a massive advantage with leech options they do have to get accuracy but it is in no way an even trade.

But be carefull of what you wish for as the normal method of dealing with this kind of imbalance is not to buff the weak but as we all know its to nerf the strong so yeah shhhhhhh.

Edited OP to specify I was talking about the attack leech nodes by duelist that allow for ele attack damage leech. And that their position on tree is horrible. had no time to clarify post last night

I agree that its location is terrible.

Just give me a keystone to turn all leech into elemental attack leech, and put it near center/shadow. Putting it by the duelist is just....dumb.

Can't find those new nodes, anyone point at them?

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Quantume wrote:

Can't find those new nodes, anyone point at them?

Look right above iron reflexes, right of duelist starting area. Right to the right of the duelist frenzy charge. Leech nodes all say "attack damage" instead of "physical attack damage" meaning they work for ele damage too

^and mana leech at ranger is also "attack specific" but not "physical attack".

It's glorious!

Peace,

-Boem-

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flyingfish24 wrote:

It is right next to the duelist? almost on opposite side of where all the weapon ele damage nodes are? Why isnt this by shadow or templar please?

Spell casters cant use it anyways cause it is attack damage. this is most useful to builds that do 90% ele damage vs phys damage. Ele reave, ele kb, ele ele whatever. Almost att ele attack damage builds I have seen are not duelist, they are temlar and shadow, then scion and maybe some witches. The duelist attack leech nodes are completely super far away for any of those builds.

the only build I can think that could use them, is ranger windripper.

- edited to clear up that it is the attack damage leech nodes I am talking about by duelist, that effect only attack damage not spell. and are extremely useful for ele damage builds but put in a super bad place for those builds

Leech should be universal. They should not have nerfed the gem to begin with. Now they are trying to repair something that they broke themselves.