Trying for 4 reds on Rats nest o.O

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Aim_Deep wrote:
If you're wearing Rats most likely wearing a Maligaro too... way way way easier to malis..just saying

dex and item level way too high to be screwing with 4R Rats


Maligaro's gloves are Evasion/Dex are they not



Wouldn't it be just as hard to 4R them?


No. Put a rats and malis in on 4R youll see

http://siveran.github.io/calc.html
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Using the Vorici Chrom Calculator.

Maligaro 4R Cost - 844 Chrom's on Average
Rat's Nest 4R Cost - 2321 Chrom's on Average

Huge difference.
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candoerfer wrote:
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Maligaro's gloves are Evasion/Dex are they not



Wouldn't it be just as hard to 4R them?

The stats requirements have an effect on the chance to roll the corresponding colors (e.g. high str -> higher chance for red sockets)


Yeah but the only required stat is Dex. Does that mean that because Rat's nest has a higher dex requirement, it's harder to roll off color sockets on it? If so, are you sure?

I might be misunderstanding here but I wouldn't guess that Maligaro's or Rat's Nest would be any different in trying to hit 4R.

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Aim_Deep wrote:


No. Put a rats and malis in on 4R youll see

http://siveran.github.io/calc.html


Can't be sure of the legitimacy of that unless it is based on known game mechanics. Is it?


It's legit. And yes, the required amount of Dex has a huge effect on how many Chromatic's it takes.
Items have an unseen baseline of like 14 STR/DEX/INT required. And it's the ratios that determine the probability. So 14/33 is much more likely than 14/160.

I'll also add that Chris has said that this mechanism is not the way he would like it to be and they're working on options.
Last edited by Shagsbeard on Mar 16, 2015, 5:37:58 PM
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demaiter wrote:
Using the Vorici Chrom Calculator.

Maligaro 4R Cost - 844 Chrom's on Average
Rat's Nest 4R Cost - 2321 Chrom's on Average

Huge difference.


But is this calculator based on actual known and verified in game mechanics?

Can someone verify or post a source of said connection?

I'm just surprised because this is strange news to me

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demaiter wrote:


It's legit. And yes, the required amount of Dex has a huge effect on how many Chromatic's it takes.


Wild, I was not aware of that.. I'm still skeptical but it sounds like the consensus is that this is true.. but I wasn't aware of GGG releasing, verifying or confirming these facts at any point, maybe I'll have to do some digging in the mechanics thread and all that shiznit


Here is some information on the stats behind if you're interested in reading up on it.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/761831

http://shouldichromeit.herokuapp.com/howitworks

Obviously he says it's not perfect, but from my experience, it's always easier to off colour items that have lower stat requirements.
Last edited by demaiter on Mar 16, 2015, 5:41:40 PM
Yeah wearing mali's too, currently wearing some yellow boots but i have some nice steps in the bank waiting.

Thanks for all who contributed!
rng is rng :P



But I wouldn't try that, OP. Find other solutions / try to roll red on your lower DEX req. gear
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As for suggestions on what to do, I suggest spamming Vorici 3r until you get there. It's an overall lower chance than 2r, but assuming you are doing it for a CWDT setup (like everyone is), you can at least have a workable setup minus the increased duration gem.
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