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If one of your minions gets a kill, the minion's IIR is added to yours and the total is used.
is this still true !?
i've been hearing that minions don't have any IIR or IIQ
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Chars: NecroMaiden [lvl:40, Ice/necro witch]
Alt: NecroKing [lvl:46, Ranged Dualist]
I've actually never been in a group run :)
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Posted byhunt3rqon May 4, 2012, 6:28:55 PM
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Also, spell damage calculations are a bit ambiguous. The way they are described in the thread, it seems like the spell damage multiplier for cold damage spell is (1 + spell damage % + elemental damage % + cold damage %). However, I heard that it's actually (1 + spell damage %) * (1 + elemental damage % + cold damage %). I mean, I heard that elemental and spell damage stack multiplicatively with each other, rather than additively. Both of those theories could be wrong, though. Also, passive and item spell/elemental damage bonuses stack additively, correct?
About spell damage, they stack addictively
So the multiplier is (1 + spell damage % + elemental damage % + cold damage %) and not (1 + spell damage %) * (1 + elemental damage % + cold damage %) for cold damage spells?
Last edited by Silty on May 4, 2012, 9:10:18 PM
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Posted bySiltyon May 4, 2012, 9:10:05 PM
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Also, spell damage calculations are a bit ambiguous. The way they are described in the thread, it seems like the spell damage multiplier for cold damage spell is (1 + spell damage % + elemental damage % + cold damage %). However, I heard that it's actually (1 + spell damage %) * (1 + elemental damage % + cold damage %). I mean, I heard that elemental and spell damage stack multiplicatively with each other, rather than additively. Both of those theories could be wrong, though. Also, passive and item spell/elemental damage bonuses stack additively, correct?
About spell damage, they stack addictively
So the multiplier is (1 + spell damage % + elemental damage % + cold damage %) and not (1 + spell damage %) * (1 + elemental damage % + cold damage %) for cold damage spells?
Assuming those are all "increased" bonuses, yes.
"X% increased" and X% reduced" modifiers are additive. All applicable such modifiers are summed and applied together.
"X% more" and "X% less" are multiplicative.
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Posted byMark_GGGon May 4, 2012, 9:43:51 PMGrinding Gear Games
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Assuming those are all "increased" bonuses, yes.
"X% increased" and X% reduced" modifiers are additive. All applicable such modifiers are summed and applied together.
"X% more" and "X% less" are multiplicative.
Ah, ok, so all the damage bonuses for spells are additive with each other. Unlike weapons, which treat local and global damage modifiers separately. Thanks!
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Posted bySiltyon May 5, 2012, 3:10:08 AM
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I encounter a problem with the "added physical damage" bonus.
I have a weapon which deals 267-620 damage.
I have a ring 7-13 added physical damage.
My pourcentage damage bonus is 216 %.
So my default attack should do :
(267-620 + 7-13)*(1+2.16) = 865.84-2000.28
Or I currently have :
(267-620)*(1+2.16) + 7-13 = 850.72-1972.2
It is not what is said here :
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Another example calculation
If you had a sword whose unmodified damage is 10-20, with the following modifiers:
50% increased physical damage on the weapon;
20% quality on the weapon;
5-10 added physical damage on the weapon;
6-9 added physical damage on a ring;
passive skills granting 30% increased sword damage;
a skill that does 40% increased damage and 30% less damage;
the calculation would would look like this:
Base damage: 10-20
Stage 1, on-weapon modifiers: (10-20 + 5-10) x (1 + 0.5 + 0.2) = 25.5-51
Stage 2, all other modifiers: (25.5-51 + 6-9) x (1 + 0.3 + 0.4) x 0.7 = 37-71
So is this a bug ? Or the calculation system had changed ?
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Posted byGilhyanon May 5, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
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Physcial damage from a source which is not a weapon (like ring, shield...) are only affected by :
-%increased physical damage (not %increased sword physical damage and other like this; just "%increased physical damage")
-%increased projectile damage
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Posted byKissanon May 5, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
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So there is a difference between "increased physical damage" and "increased melee physical damage".
Thanks you for your explanation!
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Posted byGilhyanon May 5, 2012, 12:59:19 PM
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yay
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Posted byLards123on May 5, 2012, 9:44:35 PM
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tempest shield+necromantic aegis, will my summons get this skills effect ? if no then why ?
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Posted bymorilloon May 6, 2012, 2:58:46 AM
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tempest shield+necromantic aegis, will my summons get this skills effect ? if no then why ?
Skills don't modify other skills, support gems do. Summons are skills, Tempest Shield is a skill, they won't modify eachother.
IGN: TheHammer
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Posted byMilhausenon May 6, 2012, 9:41:15 AMBanned
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