Potential economic disaster Monday - Elreon concerns.

really bad change in the middle of season :/

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Mivo wrote:

Let's just face it, the game is chiefly intended for people who can play absurd amounts of time every day, who don't mind trading constantly, and who are fine with playing the game in completely artificial ways (like sitting in /820 for a week straight), or who take the risk (tiny as it seems to be) of RMTing. If you play this game any other way (you know, like one PLAYS games instead of working them like a potato field), you face disadvantages, many of them severe and fun-killing.

This is unfortunately spot on, in my opinion. I have come upon the same sentiment throughout my play time.

I hate to be one of those supposed "toxic" forum gamers, that nice stereotype given by gaming journalists, but perhaps I am. I don't think I'm that bad, but my posts of late have been what I truly feel and think. Hang me.

I think GGG has made a great game, and they're a great developer/producer. But, sometimes I have to be honest too about how I see the game. It is only because I love the game, ultimately. I think this game generally has the potential to be the best ARPG ever made. The core systems like the tree and sockets are genius. But the other issues that come into the picture with the online aspects and RNG system (and technical issues) really hurt the game for me.

All this complaining is ridiculous. For End Game (73-78 maps) players are required to have gear that costs a couple of Ex. Making something more expensive will not ruin the economy. When I first started playing I had to buy a kongors for like 3ex and I worked my way up to it. I don't see how allowing us to craft a weapon that allows you to do almost all of the content for the cost of 2ex (plus other crafting costs - alts etc) is a problem. One divine was wayyy to cheap.

I don't understand why y'all didn't try and grab a few ex and make some profit.

I'm not worried either way, people use chaos and exalted for trading because noone actually needs them, so theres always plenty available as a currency. If any of them becomes scarce people will switch to something else as a currency (not instantly of course). There's really little reason to fear some passing economic instability in a game :)

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reinimax wrote:

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Alteration should also go up in price

As far as I know, only the Alt:Chaos ratio changes ins favour of Alts. Has the Alt:Ex ratio also changed?

The side affect is that you cannot find people selling stuff for chaos anymore.
It's huge stacks of all-or-nothing alts, fuse, chromes for 1 Ex
Good luck if you just need 20-30 chromes

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Derpey wrote:

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ahcos wrote:

This mod was way too cheap and 2 exalts is a very reasonable price for such a strong mod. You'll still get a very good endgame item for 1/10 of the price that they had before, seems fair enough.

That said, it'd be nice to be able to actually save up for exalted orbs in some way as a solo player, even if the game's balanced around trading.

So I take it you got to abuse the living shit out of this crafting mod?

Anyone who agrees with the changes, already got their share of the cake, that's really it, ignore them.

We needed a CHAOS SINK, finding an Exalt is not easy because they are so fucking RNG and rare as fuck.

GGG shot themself in the foot this time, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people would quit slowly 1 by 1 now really.

No, Elreon is lvl5 for me and i didnt even know about this mod before the bitching over this mod came up in the forum.

Still, 2 exalts is very, very cheap for that mod. Back in Domination, i paid ~28ex for a 330 dps 9,2% crit Harbinger. You can craft such a weapon, or even something better, for far less currency, even with the mod costing 2 exalts. Imo, this mod is still way to cheap. It's not like you will have to farm up Elreon yourself, you might aswell pay someone else and you'll still come out with far less currency than you'd have to pay in the old system.

I'd really prefer if that mod wasn't there at all, but i guess it's too late for GGG to take back this feature.

Edit:

Just to clarify... there was one member of the forum who was arguing that it shouldn't be to easy to get those high-end weapons as it trivializes the game and that you have no reason to play anymore once you have these weapons. I truly agree. The struggle to get the best items is what is the most fun, not actually having the best items.
People disagree with that, and i can understand them. But at the end of the day, they got their will with this feature, so ...

imo the low price of chaos orbs is a rather good thing.

at least for players who buy chaos now and profit when ggg introduces some fancy use for them in recipies or similar.

That mod shiould cost 5ex atleast, 5 pure ex.....u whiners get something that good for that low price and still whining here how price should be in chaoses or maybe wisdom scrolls,what u think about that, it would be awesome.....

Thats maybe best mod from all crafters and it should not be eazy to get,get over it and if u cant collect 60-80c to exchange for 2 ex then u should play something else

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Zguza_Do_Suz4 wrote:

if u cant collect 60-80c to exchange for 2 ex then u should play something else

The thing is that the exalted orbs will leave the economy far far faster than they will enter it until they go for maybe 80c each (if not more (I wont take any less at least)). The only reason exalts have been so easy to get was that they almost never left the economy we just passed them around while trading. Now no one will sell exalts they find (because everyone will have to save up to the multi mod) (will take some time for the exalts that already is in the economy to run out, but next league will be special).

Just a question how many exalts has dropped for you so far this league? For me it is 2 and I think I have been lucky. And if the multi mod had been at 2ex from the start I would never had sold any of them making it harder for leet players like you to buy them.

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Grildrak wrote:

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Zguza_Do_Suz4 wrote:

if u cant collect 60-80c to exchange for 2 ex then u should play something else

The thing is that the exalted orbs will leave the economy far far faster than they will enter it until they go for maybe 80c each (if not more (I wont take any less at least)). The only reason exalts have been so easy to get was that they almost never left the economy we just passed them around while trading. Now no one will sell exalts they find (because everyone will have to save up to the multi mod) (will take some time for the exalts that already is in the economy to run out, but next league will be special).

Just a question how many exalts has dropped for you so far this league? For me it is 2 and I think I have been lucky. And if the multi mod had been at 2ex from the start I would never had sold any of them making it harder for leet players like you to buy them.

Didnt got ex drop,but i have make decent amount from chaoses and other curency....Hc league is special,there u an sell almost anything that is not uber crap,sometines i sell even crap gear for chaos or fusing-two....

And even now u can sell some mid lvl gear for few chaoses,and its not realy that hard to collect even 80c if ex go to that ratio...

If price is in chaoses for that mod then u could not find any chaoses to buy or exchange or to sell something for chaoses and we would have same "problem" as now and u would stuck with your exalts

It is like it is and it cant be better,its not eazy to get that mod and it shold not be eazy...its like that when u play in new league with "fresh" economy, get exalts on time while u can