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Hodari wrote:
Even just looking at the challenges, most of them aren't really RNG based at all or at least not unreasonably so. From the example you gave:
Not RNG-based at all:
Full Clear in any difficulty
Reach level 60 in Onslaught
Minimal RNG*:
Slay Rogue Exiles
Use Currency Items
Items from Vendor Recipes
Some RNG
Use each map
* = Yes, you needed to find all the exiles which is somewhat random, but if you played normally at a high enough level, you were almost certain to find all of them eventually within the 4 months you had. Only 1 or two were even that rare. Using currency items and vendor recipes required you to have the needed items, but again you were very likely to get all but one or two of them very easily and a little trading would take care of the rest.
Maps required a lot more luck to sustain a high level pool, but again if you played enough, it wouldn't be too hard to get them all either on your own or by trading for the few you were missing. You didn't even need to CLEAR the maps, just use them, so if you really wanted, you could have done City of Sarn runs for 3 months and bought them all.
The only one that was really RNG based was owning all uniques. This also would have required a huge amount of trading and you could make a good case for this one being badly designed. On the other hand, it was probably intentionally designed this way just to limit how many people were able to complete all of them and win the t-shirt. And even here, you COULD argue that RNG wasn't the main factor since if you played enough, you're certain to find SOMETHING worth trading for all the needed items. If I remember correctly, you would have needed to average 1-2 exalteds worth of drops per day to buy all of them which would take a lot of time spent playing and/or trading, but is certainly doable without relying on getting overly lucky with one big drop.
That is the issue though, i dont want to be forced to trade by some challenge/achievement. The currency one is horrible because you gotta use the rarest of orbs and you cant possibly find those in 4 month. I think even the ex or eternal were in there too, which makes that achievement impossible.
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Posted byDeletedon Jul 18, 2014, 2:40:00 AM
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DirkAustin wrote:
That is the issue though, i dont want to be forced to trade by some challenge/achievement. The currency one is horrible because you gotta use the rarest of orbs and you cant pssibly find those in 4 month. I think even the ex or eternal were in there too, which makes that achievement impossible.
You keep using those words...I don't think they mean what you think they mean.
Even without trading at all, it is NOT impossible to find them. If it was impossible to find them without trading, then there would be none to trade in the first place.
In any case, we're not talking about hours of sitting in trade chat flipping items here. At most, you just take the chaos orbs you found over the course of 4 months and will be "forced" to make 2-3 trades to get the divine, ex, and eternal you need. 3 trades...in 4 months. If you don't get lucky enough to find them on your own. For an OPTIONAL challenge. Is that really so horrible? If you don't even want to trade that much, no one is forcing you to do the challenges in the first place.
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Posted byHodari#7574on Jul 18, 2014, 3:22:31 AM
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None of the achievments are that hard. I got most of them done just by playing the game. All i'm missing is stuff like talk to all npcs, find all the lore, capture the flag -> stuff that is annoying to do or relies on 4-5 other people cooperating.
LLD BOTW spark/arc caster guide http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1133731
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Posted byandkamen#5405on Jul 18, 2014, 6:19:17 AM
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