Bino knife too good GGG?

Is this unique the new Meta for the average player? It seems most builds are using this unique with huge success much like Bringer of rain before the nerf. I saw a molten strike 150k dps, Reave build,200k dps or something crazy like that and obviously spectral throw.Although the price has been going up it is still somewhat affordable and very effective(around 18 exalts on standard). it is starting to become eerily similar to the bringer of rain nerf. No notice no nothing just Bam! What do you guys think? Please bring something thought provoking to this discussion
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Mirror gear more than double its DPS and it's a tier 1(or 2?) uni while bringer is a tier 3 uni(rarity wise).

That meant bringer was extremely common for a 7 link. I actually still consider the old version completely balanced, it was just too common.

Last edited by kasub#2910 on Jul 6, 2014, 12:08:41 AM
That dagger sucks ... sorry.
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chromafunk wrote:
That dagger sucks ... sorry.


Yeah right. With ~10% base crit, 220+ phys dps, 10-15% crit multi and some other pretty decent stats it definitely sucks ":)". Or was your comment sarcastic?

Well I mean if you compare it to e.g. a dagger that hvr crafted, of course it sucks. I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles in Standard nowadays, anything that is not mirror-worthy is just garbage bin material.

Why did I even bother to reply, I'm stupid.
Last edited by MIIKKAAA#7563 on Jul 6, 2014, 12:19:29 AM
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MIIKKAAA wrote:
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chromafunk wrote:
That dagger sucks ... sorry.


Yeah right. With ~10% base crit, 220+ phys dps, 10-15% crit multi and some other pretty decent stats it definitely sucks ":)". Or was your comment sarcastic?

Well I mean if you compare it to e.g. a dagger that hvr crafted, of course it sucks. I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles in Standard nowadays, anything that is not mirror-worthy is just garbage bin material.

Why did I even bother to reply, I'm stupid.

That is why you can't post on Gen chat. I tried man. Thanks for at least saying something meaningful unlike that guy.
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That guy was not exactly unreasonable by posting 'it suck'

To me it is a gap filler, to fill gap between end-game daggers and average daggers, and it therefore got a price range suitable for its performance.

Chances are GGG not going to do anything to it. For if you nerf it, you might as well nerf those rare daggers way above it.

Bino is popular because it is accessible, not because it is the best or whatever.
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Yeah right. With ~10% base crit, 220+ phys dps, 10-15% crit multi and some other pretty decent stats it definitely sucks ":)". Or was your comment sarcastic?

This only makes you learn that a dagger with all those specs and no speed is not valid to achieve some serious endgame.

No speed on dagger = sucks.

BoR legacy was OP on that meta back then.

Bino´s always been a build enabler. Like all the uniques on this game. All uniques are build enablers, but Shavronnes wrappings. That is the only unique that is really something special. And I am not going to name the other one cause it would be too much hype already.

Why nerf Bino's ? It´s nerfed already ... the base attack speed is low enough to make you wish for a better dagger right after you equip it.
Last edited by chromafunk#7100 on Jul 6, 2014, 1:27:38 AM
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chromafunk wrote:
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Yeah right. With ~10% base crit, 220+ phys dps, 10-15% crit multi and some other pretty decent stats it definitely sucks ":)". Or was your comment sarcastic?

This only makes you learn that a dagger with all those specs and no speed is not valid to achieve some serious endgame.


It is easily fast enough. You can achieve very good aps with Bino's. And tbh it really doesn't even matter all that much. Bino's is a phys dagger so you don't scale your damage with auras/ele damage -> no need for super high aps. Also very few builds use LGoH over LL so you don't need super high aps for that either.

I mean I don't know why I'm even replying here, it is apparent that you only play Standard and that league is flooded with stupidly godly bullshit items. Of course Bino's is nothing compared to them. Other people, who don't play Standard, understand that Bino's is an amazing dagger that costs fortunes to replace. Especially in HC leagues, which are basically only leagues I personally play (seriously).

And your statement about Bino's not being good enough for "some serious endgame"... You must be joking. With a proper build and decent gear you can absolutely tear just about everything apart with Bino's. It's nowhere near bis but if you're not playing Standard it is most likely a dagger that you won't replace for a good while.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. For people like you who only play Standard exclusively, Bino's is nothing special. For everyone else, it for sure is. One thing is for sure: it doesn't suck, however you look at it. It is at least a very decent unique, even in Standard.

I guess this "discussion" also answers OP, so it's not completely offtopic.
Last edited by MIIKKAAA#7563 on Jul 6, 2014, 2:00:55 AM
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MIIKKAAA wrote:
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chromafunk wrote:
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Yeah right. With ~10% base crit, 220+ phys dps, 10-15% crit multi and some other pretty decent stats it definitely sucks ":)". Or was your comment sarcastic?

This only makes you learn that a dagger with all those specs and no speed is not valid to achieve some serious endgame.


It is easily fast enough. You can achieve very good aps with Bino's. And tbh it really doesn't even matter all that much. Bino's is a phys dagger so you don't scale your damage with auras/ele damage -> no need for super high aps. Also very few builds use LGoH over LL so you don't need super high aps for that either.

I mean I don't know why I'm even replying here, it is apparent that you only play Standard and that league is flooded with stupidly godly bullshit items. Of course Bino's is nothing compared to them. Other people, who don't play Standard, understand that Bino's is an amazing dagger that costs fortunes to replace. Especially in HC leagues, which are basically only leagues I personally play (seriously).

And your statement about Bino's not being good enough for "some serious endgame"... You must be joking. With a proper build and decent gear you can absolutely tear just about everything apart with Bino's. It's nowhere near bis but if you're not playing Standard it is most likely a dagger that you won't replace for a good while.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. For people like you who only play Standard exclusively, Bino's is nothing special. For everyone else, it for sure is. One thing is for sure: it doesn't suck, however you look at it. It is at least a very decent unique, even in Standard.

I guess this "discussion" also answers OP, so it's not completely offtopic.





I guess Ambush is over , but I'm an ambush player and you couldn't pay me 10 exalts to equip a Bino's. It is used ONLY because it is accessible to poorer players - it is ok for budget flicker as you don't need aps on dagger but pretty much every other top end build demands aps. A midrange crafted dagger (say a moderate 50ish ex to craft in temp league) will greatly outperform it.


Phys dagger builds not scaling aura ele dmg is just silliness - physical ST derives a huge chunk of its damage from auras as ele dmg.
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