What's this "damage effectiveness" I keep reading about?

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Fhedaykin wrote:

because by default it hits multiple targets fully

Both Fireball and Glacial Cascade can hit more targets easier though, and have better effectiveness. Arc is only better when there's just a couple very scattered enemies. Plus it can't benefit from increased AoE, which means even less targets in contrast.

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Vipermagi wrote:

^That, on the previous pasge (darnit). A decently high-level Arc can hit six dudes per cast, spread out over the entire screen, or just two dudes thrice. Fireball explodes once, and hitting six dudes with that? Lol.

Hm, well, guess it's true Arc can hit the same target multiple times, but I still think a Fireball with just some increased AoE can hit more targets, if you're talking about high level anyway. And there's others that can hit even more with more effectiveness.

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Vipermagi wrote:

Fireabll can hit more targets more easily? Hahaha.

With GMP, sure.
GMP also halves the Damage you gain from Supports.
Just like 50% DE.
Welp.

Just edited my previous post cause I hadn't seen the last post before it. But like I said, if you're talking about high level (Arc only hits 6 targets past 21) then it's very easy to have a bit of AoE and hit more with Fireball too.

Plus, even if they hit the same amount, you're comparing 50% effectiveness to 100%. With those numbers Arc should clearly be able to hit more targets easier.

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Vipermagi wrote:

^That, on the previous pasge (darnit). A decently high-level Arc can hit six dudes per cast, spread out over the entire screen, or just two dudes thrice. Fireball explodes once, and hitting six dudes with that? Lol.

Arc can no longer bounce between only 2 targets.

1.1.2

Arc and Vaal Arc have had their damage increased by 60%. Arc and Vaal Arc can now no longer chain back to the same target immediately, but must now bounce one more time. Arc now increases in chain counts as the gem increases in level.