Greater Rifts - an interesting hybrid of maps and races...

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morbo wrote:

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Xavderion wrote:

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morbo wrote:

Interesting, there seem to be only one layer of RNG (getting the key), before you get to the real H&S action, instead of the usual dozen layers of RNG in PoE :)

List the dozen layers pls

"Dozens" was of course a joke, but let's look at content availability in PoE.

Atziri layers:

1.) spawn corrupt zone
2.) get a frag drop instead of vaal gem
3.) get the correct frag drop

All the above is done in boring faceroll low-level areas, and you can go 2 hours or more of "farming" without getting any closer to >>starting<< the boss run. That's like wanting to go for a ride, but instead you are stuck in the parking lot trying to jump start the car for two hours. Muh fun. :))

Mapping layers:

1.) availability of chisel rng
2.) availability of alc rng
3.) availability of chaos rng
4.) rolling the map rng (an action decreasing the availability of the first three layers)
5.) ultimately map drops still depend on luck
6.) not only that, you must also be lucky to drop a higher map and not a lower one

The availability of orbs needed for mapping can itself be de-constructed into several layers of rng - hammers, whetstones, low maps, chaos recipe ingredients, blah blah... economuh solves all your problems, yes I know.

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I_NO wrote:

What do I think? It's stupid and unoriginal.

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morbo wrote:

Content in PoE is gated by a time tax of RNG-dependant boring tasks, that usually involve collecting ingredients in faceroll easy areas. Only then, after the chores are done, your badass 90+ lvl champion, can have a shot at challenging content.

I'm sorry. I like PoE and play it a lot (maybe too much, even). But this concept is of gating is retarded. (and I suspect it exists only to fuel the economy machine)

Eg:
In Std I have more 77 & 78 maps I can chisel. Mapping is therefore interrupted by sporadic trips to Act2 Riverways, where I roflstomp monkeys (with my 91 badass mara), to collect hammers... -_-

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This "Great rift" concept sounds like something designed to push player into challenging themselves, instead of avoiding challenge (roll pack size + magic monsters, as this is the best way to get more maps)

I don't own D3 or RoS. But getting rid of the economy, seems to have some beneficial effects on ARPG H&S. (ofc there are some negative effects, but in this case it's positive.)

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Nubatron wrote:

D3 forum disagrees.

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mrpetrov wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

What do I think? It's stupid and unoriginal.

Hi mate - what do you not like about it more specifically - I am genuinely curious!

Unoriginal - why and who cares? Stupid - how so?

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mrpetrov wrote:

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Pyrokar wrote:

It's funny to see blizzard's futile attempts to redeem themselves for the WoWification of diablo.

Does that mean you think Greater Rifts are a good idea or not - or is your pithy one liner the sum total of your value-add on the internet?

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mrpetrov wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

D3 forum disagrees.

Incorrect.

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Nubatron wrote:

Hahahaha. Not sure what forum you are looking at. Tons of bitching about items not dropping and losing ability to trade for them. Lose-lose. If I find some time I'll scour GD there and post some links. That place is a cesspool of complaints since honeymoon phase ended. I hope ggg learns from the entire D3 debacle and does not make the same mistakes.