What items are next in line to go Legacy?
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I have yet to see a convincing argument about how legacy impacts other players. If GGG balanced around them, then it would be a problem. There is not a single legacy that I'm aware of that someone cannot get off the market. Those who are so 'hurt' by them also have the option of other leagues that do not have them.
The 'new player' argument is mostly lacking...of course new players are behind. They are new. The presence of legacy does not make them less able to shred the game since the game is not balanced against legacy (if I recall, uber atziri was first killed in Ambush where there are no legacy items). In fact, if they are so interested in legacy then it is only a matter of time before the next mjollnir or Coe is introduced and they will get it before it becomes legacy. Or they can trade for it. Or they can quit worrying about others. Or they can a qq on forum. All viable and not mutually exclusive. The only real harm that I can see is to someone's epeen .Who cares. Thanks for all the fish! Last edited by Nubatron#4333 on Jun 17, 2014, 9:35:37 AM
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" And you never will because, honestly, all the arguments against legacy items are made out of just jealousy. Psychologically players want to be the best at the game they are playing (generally) and knowing that you have diminished chances of being the best or a significantly harder time getting to the point of being the best due to 'legacy' items only leads to feeling like you are being treated unfair. I've given away my fair share of legacy gear and it doesn't bother me at all to this day. They would be in standard (which I don't play) and I really don't care about what other people have regardless. " Pretty much this. And that's why I think the anti-legacy mentality will never change anything about how GGG handles legacy items. Last edited by DestroTheGod#5470 on Jun 17, 2014, 11:02:49 AM
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The issue I see with legacies is that it feels like moving goalposts. Someone could spend every waking moment they have on this game for months trying to get X super rare, expensive, and powerful item, only to have that item suddenly become 10x more expensive and never able to drop again.
Of course, functionally nothing has really changed; they can still go for the post-nerf item and most of them are still quite capable for any given build. It's not an issue of actual balance or fairness however, but of perceived balance and fairness. It feels unfair and unrewarding to suddenly get the rug pulled out from under you. And when it comes to video game design, player experience the most important metric. IGN: Ikimashouka, Tsukiyattekudasai, DontCallMeMrFroyo Last edited by gilrad#6851 on Jun 17, 2014, 9:46:53 AM
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I mean really I just find it really stupid because why release something knowing it's full blown beyond god tier and such? Like why would you do that? Fuck I don't mind because I can get anything I want in lol standard.
It's just the whole future thing that pisses me off in future leagues. etc etc Dys an sohm Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Jun 17, 2014, 9:53:54 AM
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Well if it is creating jealously for the players this means that it is affecting their game play experience. If you don't care that is your own personal experience nothing to do with other players. You have the items you want already it is understandable that you don't care.
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" This clearly shares a link to trading... ie, saving currency to afford an item you want. Thats absolutely a big part of this game, agreed. However, just as in real life, if you are playing a trading game then be prepared for things to change. Just because Mr. Epeen is now going to have to pay more for an item, doesn't mean the rest of the game or current owners of said item should suffer. Changing someones existing item, now that is what can be considered unfair and these forums would see a fair bigger rise in traffic should that happen! " Jealousy is a player problem, not a game problem, irrelevant of whether the feeling was generated due to an ingame change. Just for try for see and for know -2013! She corpse exploded the corpse of the boss... Last edited by Zanixx#5803 on Jun 17, 2014, 10:27:44 AM
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"I agree, legacy items and league only uniques are total bullshit. I'll never understand why they can't just take the servers down for a day and update all legacy items. |
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it's quite obvious that there will be very limited number of new legacy. It's easier to modify/nerf mechanism behind them instead.
IGN TylordRampage
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" As crazy as it sounds, from a podcast Chris did a while ago (sorry not looking for it) they really thought that bringer wasn't op. Honestly, I was mind blown. I imagine that in a lot of cases, they just didn't think an item was op or it was filling in some niche role. I doubt nerfing CoE would even do anything. What can you nerf? The double leech being reduced wouldn't matter (everybody does insane dps with it in the first place so even 1% is nuts), accuracy is already average and if reduced would just be made up with other gear (just like leech if absolutely needed), and the best mod on it is its unique mod which is unchangeable. To nerf it, they'd have to remove it from the game. |
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they can nerf it by modifying the mod "Modifier to Spell Damage applies to Attack" to "Modifier to Spell Damage on Gear applies to Attack".
EASY. And this modification in database did not create any legacy. I don't remember wich unique has been nerfed this way but they already did that. IGN TylordRampage Last edited by Malone#6946 on Jun 17, 2014, 11:14:34 AM
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