Prismatic shield (key-stone suggestion)

Location :

Between ranger/duelist/shadow (right bottom side would be most appropriate balance wise)

Function :

Reduces maximum block cap by 15% (to 60%) 100% of block chance is applied to spells.

Reasoning :

The right bottom side of the tree lacks any +max resis cap nodes/functionality. Due to the game increasing demands on over-capping resistances, i feel there is a need for an alternative to "aura" stacking as is currently the case.

This key-stone would give players an alternative to work around, reducing the necessity of aura stacking to deal with end-game spells.

I feel the cost is sufficient to warrant the benefits.

This would also allow better use of "rare" items since spell block would no longer be only accessible on unique items and 1 node in the passive tree.

Thoughts?

peace,

-Boem-

Adding an idea of Vargorn (page 2 first post) that i found interesting.

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vargorn wrote:
Really like the basic idea of that keystone. But to make it balanced i feel that the total benefits would have to be spread over several nodes so you have to invest a bunch of skillpoints to get it all (similar as it was made with the CI and Acrobatics cluster).


Taking it from there, i would suggest making the keystone:
15% reduced max block chance
60% of block chance applied to spells

followed by 2-3 passives with a total of:
+40% of block chance applied to spells (like for example 20+20 or 15+10+15)

finished by a notable with:
+5% block for dual wield/ staff /shields
+ 50% block recovery


Total gain of the cluster at 4-5 skillpoints invested:
60% max block
100% block chance applied to spells (-> 60% max spellblock)
+5% block chance
+50% block recovery


I believe that splitting the benefits over 4-5 nodes while adding additional utility makes it more appealing as a build choice rather than an (almost mandatory) leveling keystone for each and every block build.
The above suggestion might work but would probably need some more tweaking in terms of the distribution of the stats on the passives.


I think this idea has merit to it.
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Last edited by Boem#2861 on May 27, 2014, 2:04:46 PM
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No thoughts on this by anybody?

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This idea is nice, considering its an alternative than getting certain items such Stone of Lazhwar, Saffell's Frame, and Rathpith Globe.


A keystone in passive node for significant spell block would serve as a nice item independent build.
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Last edited by bunnyxian901#3042 on May 25, 2014, 4:29:24 AM
OP.
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OP.


I don't think you understand the severity of having only 60%block and spellblock%.

(remember this still requires investment to achieve, either in items or passive tree)

Or just to say.

Give an explanation of why you consider this op, or don't post at all.

I might as well type

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OP.


No.

See, very effective for arguments sake.
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DirkAustin wrote:
OP.


no penalty in block + 5% to all max ress (safells unique) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this keystone

personaly i would like to see a keystone that alouds armor to olso reduce elemental dmg say:

prismatic armor:
armor reduce elemental dmg but with 50% effectivness
-50% to max elemental resistances
40% less life
self found league fan

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/324242/page/1

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no penalty in block + 5% to all max ress (safells unique)


This is wrong, safels only provides spell block upon usage, you are unable to perform a normal "block" once you equip it.

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personaly i would like to see a keystone that alouds armor to olso reduce elemental dmg say:

prismatic armor:
armor reduce elemental dmg but with 50% effectivness
-50% to max elemental resistances
40% less life


Your suggestion makes very little sense, because it streamlines defenses even more instead of giving alternatives, which is what i am trying to do.

Basically all forms of attack except chaos could be blocked by armor in your theory, making decisions redundant after this keystone.

My keystone provides a new max value of block (=60%) and in return grants a 100% spell block efficiency on that cap (= 60% spell block when max value is reached)

Thus reducing the overall efficiency of block, but giving it two purposes instead of one.
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Boem wrote:
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no penalty in block + 5% to all max ress (safells unique)


This is wrong, safels only provides spell block upon usage, you are unable to perform a normal "block" once you equip it.


my bad i missread it

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Boem wrote:

Your suggestion makes very little sense, because it streamlines defenses even more instead of giving alternatives, which is what i am trying to do.

Basically all forms of attack except chaos could be blocked by armor in your theory, making decisions redundant after this keystone.

My keystone provides a new max value of block (=60%) and in return grants a 100% spell block efficiency on that cap (= 60% spell block when max value is reached)

Thus reducing the overall efficiency of block, but giving it two purposes instead of one.


is a build enabler more than anything else. it makes hybrid defences like ES/armor and eva/armor more valuable. going full armor will get you killed easily, not only by chaos dmg but olso becouse 50% effectivness implies you will still need a considerable amount of HP/ES behind that armor to survive.
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/324242/page/1

Any more thought on this ?

Also i am still waiting for DirkAustin to explain his "OP" comment.

How is 60% spell block at max value OP when you are reducing your cap by 15% for both spellblock and normal block sir?

Do enlighten me :).
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with saffells one with 80% you have 60%spellblock if you have 75%physblock. now saffells cant block attacks has no life no defensive stats and except the really nice +4 max almost no resistances.
your keystone would be op because you could block spells and attacks and get a shield with 1700+ev and 90 life + high resistances the drawback is far to small

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