Glass Cannon Ledge Farmer TheoryCraft, 1 Exalt Prize
" Sorry for the double post, but that dagger is horrible, read the level requirement. :`( Ign: TheMidgetCow (Level 88.8 CI Leapslam Templar --- Default)
TheMidgetCowAmbush (Level 91.7 Buzzsaw Ranger --- Ambush) TheMidgetCowBurns (Level X LowLife RF Scion --- Ambush) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/348309/page/1 --- Legacy Guide to CI Leapslam Templar |
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" LOL. Fffff. Forgot about that. Xbox Master Race
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So far my top two choices are between Nikheizen and Midnightgems contribution.
I would like to know more about both builds though. Think: Clear speed vs. iir. The best build will have the best mix of both, sacrificing neither to get the other. Can ice nova do that? Can flicker? Which build is more entertaining for long hours grinding endless ledge? I want the pro's and cons of both of those builds in regards to each other. ie. Flicker clicks once and finishes map while ice nova run to middle of pack and click once. Stuff like that, It's actually a hard decision at this point. Win me over! Xbox Master Race
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Flicker will cause massive desync and will be hard to loot (since you will basically port through the entire ledge if you have good density and enough damage to chain your flickers)
Ice Nova has 0 gear requirements other than the Sceptre, so all of your gear can be your best rarity pieces, and you just run up, kill em dead, and it won't matter. Discipline + basically any 300 or so ES chest will give you enough life. All builds will be boring in the long run :) These are all 1 button kill everything builds, but honestly, if you get the Ice Nova micro transaction it may be more enjoyable. Ice Nova will most likely have more issues with Kuduku than Flicker would, due to not having the best single-target, but that is fixable with a supplementary skill. Flicker scales exponentially with the better gear you have, yet that means you have to invest more in the character. Ice Nova has a huge power spike with the +3 gems sceptre, but past that, no other gear is required, so you can run any pieces you choose. Your resists and life pool most likely will not matter with either build, as long as you avoid projectiles and melee attacks (fairly easy on ledge). Overall, it will be much more difficult as a melee character than as a ranged character, which cause me personally to lean towards Ice Nova. Also, the fact that as Flicker you may have to run back across the entire map to go get your loot, or that you may just desync, think you are flickering, and be standing there, or worse, dead, makes me shy away from the build. Having played Flicker-Multi into the high 80s once upon a time (beginning of release), I know the build is prone to lag/desync/fps spikes and sometimes just dies off. I play templar in every race because of how much I love Ice Nova, and its AoE damage potential. EDIT: Quick search to show how many +3 Cold Gems Sceptres there are in Ambush for sale, and their prices. http://poe.xyz.is/search/basichititasaz Many for around 5-10 chaos, or less. A -good- dagger will cost around 1-2exalt, or more. :) Ign: TheMidgetCow (Level 88.8 CI Leapslam Templar --- Default) TheMidgetCowAmbush (Level 91.7 Buzzsaw Ranger --- Ambush) TheMidgetCowBurns (Level X LowLife RF Scion --- Ambush) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/348309/page/1 --- Legacy Guide to CI Leapslam Templar Last edited by Midnightgem#4275 on Apr 16, 2014, 10:57:38 PM
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" Good feedback! That does make me lean towards this build. Lets see if the other guy can provide a good counter :) Xbox Master Race
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-Flicker is melee and will cause desync, but you'll be moving so fast and stunning constantly so monsters won't have time to hit you.
-Your attack skill is your movement skill and you can always just let off the button and whirling blades to an item you see on the ground. -All you need for the build is the crit dagger, considering the passive tree investment in damage(Even a Mightflay will work quite well). Everything else can be devoted purely to your farming items. -Since Flicker Strike scales off your weapon and tree, the links you have are a little overkill above 3-4. -Additionally, though Ice Nova is a strong spell early in the game, it will scale off later compared to attacks. Flicker will be easier to get to 53. -Flicker will handle rare and blue packs much better than Ice Nova will, with a considerably higher speed. Also flicker is actually fun. Run outside town and spam ice nova for a bit. Then go play with Flicker Strike. Both builds will have equal opportunity at IIR/IIQ gear and ES/resists, flicker will clear and move much faster but be somewhat more dangerous without using the leech build. " That's standard, not ambush. 160+ pdps daggers with 8% minimum crit chance max level 53: Link Edit : DPS Assume you use Foe Scratch(listed for 4 chaos in the link). 6 frenzy charges With Flicker Strike - Multistrike - Blood Magic - Life Leech Gives 7.21176 attacks/second. (Each cast is 0.4 seconds for 3 hits) Damage modifiers add in for an average damage per hit of 314.23392. Crit comes in at 35.5725% chance and 249% increased damage(with poison for extra 20% damage over 2 seconds). DPS before crit is ~2266. DPS after crit is ~4273. Average damage in poison per crit is ~156, which is irrelevant really. You'll leach ~200 ES/second. The dps with the damage-focused build will be considerably greater. Last edited by nikheizen#4966 on Apr 16, 2014, 11:39:14 PM
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So why Ledge and not Felshrine, Felshrine at least has the chance for a Soul-Taker. I would consider Felshrine even a bit better, starting at the crossroads entry you can run clockwise back to that entrance and reset.
Items like Mjölnir, Saffels or Soul-Taker can drop in Felshrine but not in Ledge. |
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" That is an excellent point! Guys!!! Redo builds for Fellshrine level! Also, do you have a confirmation link for this information? Xbox Master Race
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" At this point, leech and damage builds coincide, so just use this one. Dagger options are more numerous, and higher quality. DPS from my last post will probably scale up to 7-8k or more. Leech will be around 350-400/second. Bring a healing pot to stave off blood rage. You can skip ghost reaver if you want to skip the healing pot, but it will function a little wonky. Mjolner will drop off of blue/rare mobs in fellshrine, Saffel's/Soultaker can drop off whites/chests/blues/rares. Last edited by nikheizen#4966 on Apr 16, 2014, 11:52:04 PM
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That is 23 more points than the last one, and im only gaining 6 levels??
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