In two weeks PoE will have less STEAM players than at the end of last leagues

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SuperDeathLord wrote:
Lol i just love how these grudges evolves into this whiner vendettas where u post charts and graphs and give 'business advice', as if u really care how well the 'business' does. And as if your advice isnt hilariously one-sided, biased, willingly uninformed, and unreliably useless, cuz its given based on emotion not intellect.

All u want is your stuff to be unnerfed, or drop rates to be improved, or your special little feature to be put in the game, or some grudge against another poster.



Game has serious issues and is dying, face it kid.
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ancalagon3000 wrote:
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SuperDeathLord wrote:
Lol i just love how these grudges evolves into this whiner vendettas where u post charts and graphs and give 'business advice', as if u really care how well the 'business' does. And as if your advice isnt hilariously one-sided, biased, willingly uninformed, and unreliably useless, cuz its given based on emotion not intellect.

All u want is your stuff to be unnerfed, or drop rates to be improved, or your special little feature to be put in the game, or some grudge against another poster.



Game has serious issues and is dying, face it kid.


So what? why would I care? If the game dies, I'll play A NEW ONE. DUH.
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ancalagon3000 wrote:
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SuperDeathLord wrote:
Lol i just love how these grudges evolves into this whiner vendettas where u post charts and graphs and give 'business advice', as if u really care how well the 'business' does. And as if your advice isnt hilariously one-sided, biased, willingly uninformed, and unreliably useless, cuz its given based on emotion not intellect.

All u want is your stuff to be unnerfed, or drop rates to be improved, or your special little feature to be put in the game, or some grudge against another poster.



Game has serious issues and is dying, face it kid.


Such wisdom :3
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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ancalagon3000 wrote:
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SuperDeathLord wrote:
Lol i just love how these grudges evolves into this whiner vendettas where u post charts and graphs and give 'business advice', as if u really care how well the 'business' does. And as if your advice isnt hilariously one-sided, biased, willingly uninformed, and unreliably useless, cuz its given based on emotion not intellect.

All u want is your stuff to be unnerfed, or drop rates to be improved, or your special little feature to be put in the game, or some grudge against another poster.



Game has serious issues and is dying, face it kid.


Gramps, you don't know what you are talking about. Go with the time man.
“Demons run when a good man goes to war"
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SuperDeathLord wrote:
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ancalagon3000 wrote:
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SuperDeathLord wrote:
Lol i just love how these grudges evolves into this whiner vendettas where u post charts and graphs and give 'business advice', as if u really care how well the 'business' does. And as if your advice isnt hilariously one-sided, biased, willingly uninformed, and unreliably useless, cuz its given based on emotion not intellect.

All u want is your stuff to be unnerfed, or drop rates to be improved, or your special little feature to be put in the game, or some grudge against another poster.



Game has serious issues and is dying, face it kid.


So what? why would I care? If the game dies, I'll play A NEW ONE. DUH.



I guess GGG got the core player base they were looking for and deserved.
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Yeah 'fanboys' who waste their time enjoying and promoting a game they enjoy...

versus what? a whiner who sits around miserable wasting his time on a game he hates?

Brilliant...

I mean imagine that.. if u go to a comic book website u might just find people who enjoy reading i dont know.. COMIC BOOKS? AMAZING.

I mean I went to a forums on origami and OMG all these guys were so into.. ORIGAMI!!
I had to show em what a winner I was buy spending hours bashing origami on the origimi website!
But so many origami lovers there, what a strange place.. must be a religious cult or something?
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Oh no. Answering posts with pinpoint precision.

That's...inexcusable!

...seriously?

Hint: if you want to be taken seriously, open your eyes and see that anyone, anyone you would label as a fanboy here has criticised the game at some point. Some of us very vehemently.

A fan cares about something and is passionate about it, especially if that means pointing out its flaws in the hopes that this might make it better.

A fanboy cannot see that something can even be wrong, or inferior, or anything less than perfect. A fanboy cannot be reasoned with.

Path of Exile's community does not have many fanboys. But it does have fans who aren't willing to admit that's what they still are.

As for those who can't be reasoned with, I'd say we have more people on the other side of the fence there -- trolls and naysayers who have lost all objectivity in their hurt and disappointment.


The House feels so cold without you CharChar.
“Demons run when a good man goes to war"
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Temper wrote:
I guess GGG got the core player base they were looking for and deserved.


Actually, I think his approach ("if it dies, I'll play something else") is healthier than what many of us do. Emotional investment and attachment (in)to something that isn't ours and that we have no control over isn't necessarily a sensible idea.

I mean, at the end of the day, it really is just a video game for most of us. (Our livelihood is not dependent on it.)
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CharanJaydemyr wrote:
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Boondocksaint" wrote:
Fine, lets forget about charts and maybe try and use our eyes and brain.

I have only played invasion last month so i ll only comment on that.

When Invasion started there were 40-50 trade channels active all the time with so many people.
Last 10 days in the morning you have 1 channel poorly active, barely moving and in the evening you have 2-3 channels active but most of them are same people and spam goes something like this:

a) WTS/WTB exalted orb - this will allways be the case
b) WTB Chance orbs - this is one of the signs game is broken, there is no way you get good unique, T1 unique unless you spam thousands of chance orbs
c) WTB Chisels - noone have enough chisels, and every 2-3 lines are chisels, chisels and chisels
d) few people spaming their shit uniques or rare items

So genius, what is your logic here?


I test-ran Invasion just before it was released and didn't make it past level 5. My immediate feedback was 'this is WAY overtuned. You can't release this as it is!'...but they did, and I knew it'd cause massive problems. And it has. Consequently, I've ignored Invasion entirely. It's a fuckup, plain and simple. It wasn't sufficiently tested, it's aimed at a VERY small percentage of the playerbase and quite honestly if Ambush weren't as good as it is, it would have signified SotV's 4 month leagues as a failure to me.

I assume that Invasion's playerbase has plummeted as a result of this. Ignoring the usual drop-off after a month or two of a league (GGG is caught in a cycle of spikes and dips now), Invasion just isn't the sort of league most people are meant to stay in for long. It's insane.

The issue is I would think people are so aggravated by the poor balance of Invasion (or maybe that it's aimed at extremely good/dedicated players and people who think they are that, are cut to find out that maybe they're not) that they're quitting altogether. While I agree that Invasion is very poorly balanced, there are still some very high level survivors. If there weren't, then absolutely the league would be a failure. But there are, so I guess someone's enjoying it and figuring it all out.

I do not think that the drop-off in one temporary league's population is sufficient evidence to declare the game 'dying' or 'dead'. Ambush is thriving, Standard is pretty busy and the races get healthy levels of participation.

I am not sure if you were expecting me to explain why such a drop-off justifies a belief the game is dying. If you were, I don't agree and so don't think I should have to explain that.

All I have done here is attempt to give some perspective on how the population levels of leagues might fluctuate, and to further explain that one league's deliberately sharp drop-off should not be read as the game's demise.



Hehe, you answered anyway.

You are wrong though, but you still answered :)

Now to explain why are you wrong. First Invasion is not meant to be played for anyone, simply because no build, gear or skill can protect you against 20 000 hits. This is why that league failed hard. It is based on luck. So if you will live or die is based which invader boss will you get in map and if you will see him on time to avoid him, if its one of the oneshotters.

And second there are some survivors at very high levels, but the reason for that are few.
They avoid any contact with invader bosses, or as i saw on the stream, they play in groups with 2-3 summoners in party, so that there is allways 30-40 zombies and all kind of minions in front of them and they dont even go in same room with monsters, they just sit under those spectre evangelist barriers.

So far survivors in every league so far were using some way of exploit to be on top of the ladder. That is bad design for me.
I didnt mean to be callous about the game 'dying' Obviously if the game dies, it sucks. It's a great game, I love it. I really do think GGG is putting their best effort in to be loyal to the customers, and try to make the best game they can. Just give em time.

Blizz pulled a real dick move and dumped tons of money into a game that was a total failure, just as a last hurrah 'f u' to POE. Pure speculation: I'm sure GGG coulda sold out to blizz and pretty much forced u all to play D3. Chris Wilson prolly woulda escaped New Zealand by now and be pimpin' it up in Hong Kong ATM instead of programmin a video game 18 hours a day.

If GGG just stays the course, they will come out on top IMHO. I mean those blizz guys prolly already thinkin rite now how to add in some pay-2-win/subscription stuff to make back their money. OK it's big company tactics, plain N simple - they puttin the squeeze on the newcomers, and hopin they feel it.

[None of what I said is based in any fact, it's pure speculation, and 50% joking]
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