What on earth? How are all these people getting 7k, 10k, 12k ES / hp?
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Can we have a discussion about top-end gear and how in the hell these people in Atziri boss videos have 7000 ES, or 9000 health, or one guy had 12,251 ES?
What the hell is going on? I honestly can't even calculate that much ES % on the skill tree even assuming 1000's of ES on gear. Is this all from insane legacy items that GGG will of course never do anything about? | |
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Correct builds and mechanics.
Learn them. and also god tier gear. Dys an sohm
Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr |
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No legacy item is giving people huge ES... Rares have the biggest ES numbers, not legacy items.
You only need around 260% HP for 6k HP. Make that 300%, add kaoms and you get the upperend HP numbers of 8k+. Also note that each level gives a significant amount of HP so people who are level 90+ will have a lot more than someone still in their 70s. Last edited by kasub#2910 on Mar 22, 2014, 8:25:49 PM
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ES is much easier to get high numbers of than life. Most ES builds don't take many ES nodes and still end up with like 8k with good items. If you actually do take the random 6% nodes, then you go way higher. I experimented before one of the free respecs, and hit (IIRC) 12.5K ES with items way below optimal (~600 ES chest, ~450 ES helm, ~600 ES shield, ~200 gloves, ~200 boots, no %ES on ammy, rings and belt were close to optimal), just by taking the ring and all the other randomly inefficient nodes.
Getting over 10k life is waaaaay harder. Needs you to take loads of life nodes AND have a kaoms, more or less. Have you done something awesome with [url=http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Sire_of_Shards]Sire of Shards[/url]? PM me and tell me all about it! Last edited by viperesque#7817 on Mar 22, 2014, 8:34:32 PM
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mostly just god level insanity gear for ES levels.
for life levels its basically a passive tree dedicated to health and a koams. but even with only just over 200% hp on my passive tree i could squeeze out 4400 hp by optimizing my gear (what isn't uniques). basically the people with these characters have been playing the game for a little while, knowing the ins and outs of mechanics and the passive tree to fully optimize what they are doing. |
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" then L2maths 300% from tree and amulet (intelligence counts as well) 12% more from infused shield behind CI 500 shield 800 armor 300 helm 150 gloves 60 belt 100 rings 150 boots 318 discipline 25 amulet Gives you 10765 energy shield. High level char specced in plenty of %ES nodes can get far more than 300% combined, there's also an easy +90% ES on shield available above the templar area so that nearly doubles your shield ES (which is already pretty high if you have insane gear), aura effect nodes inceasing discipline etc. Additionally I didn't count in 'ephemeral edge' unique which gives +50% max ES. I once did the maths on what was the most possible ES a char could have and ended up with a number over 30k. Beyond league.
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" 30 000 ES ? b...it and worthless theory,many ppl with godly items eternaled xxx times can get just little more than half of 30 000 |
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hp is much harder to get, need more nodes than es, and you need top hp rolls in almost all your equip just for 5-6k.
and for over 6-7k u need kaoms. |
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" It's spelled: P A Y 2 W I N Last edited by RogueMage#7621 on Mar 23, 2014, 2:32:59 AM
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getting 10K+ ES isn't hard. you just need a very defensive passive tree and some good items.
getting some good items requires some farm, of course. time is money. but, say, if you can farm 5 chaos a day, which shouldn't be too difficult, it will take you 1 month to get a 850 ES chest on standard league. yes, it is a shitty one, but still. then, follow up on SEXYSUPERSATAN 's calculation. Last edited by Kiedel#3585 on Mar 23, 2014, 5:18:34 AM
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