[1.1.1] Hyrri's Wind Fury (TheoryCraft)

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wuthang wrote:
I really like the idea. But I'm not sure about the crit chance without power charge (voll's or PCoC)? 45% (without power charge) seems a bit low right?


With the build i maket and if i done the math right then with windripper without power charges it's about 50% crit chance and with an attack per second on 4.2 so if you take the crazy attack speed in mind then 10% lower crit chance because of not using power charges is like not somethink you going to feel at all. i don't on my character with quill rain and i only got 41% crit chance but 5.5 attack per second :) i am ofc using 6L voll's chest and 6L quill rain so i got 5 power charges on my main character, but without and this is with quill rain i got 29% so with windripper base crit on 10% and with the nodes it's should be around 50% and that is more then enough with that attack per second you will have :)

Sorry Fangs for the many posts i am making in your thread, just a really cool idea you got there, and i hope it's okay we talk it over in here :)

Keep Happy :)

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Last edited by DisableTV#5850 on Mar 18, 2014, 10:31:51 AM
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Fangs wrote:
Your spec looks nice, but you might wanna get more accuracy nodes to help proc crits more fluidly without dips.

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wuthang wrote:
I really like the idea. But I'm not sure about the crit chance without power charge (voll's or PCoC)? 45% (without power charge) seems a bit low right?

I don't have the new bow. This is my current spec and gear with this:
(Lower base crit than the new bow.)





73% Crit without Power Charges. Crit capped (95%) with Power Charges. I use Cold Snap, so it's good to always have Power Charges anyway. You'd lose a little bit by trading out the armor but could make up for it with Diamond Rings, etc. Running at 87% Accuracy but those 20% nodes only add 1%. Not worth it.
Last edited by feyith#0081 on Mar 18, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
Agree the acc nodes is not worth it, only if you get more then just 20% acc from the node and it's not to long of a travel. and with the right gear you don't need more then like 40% acc from nodes to have over 85% chance to hit.

Nice character feyith.
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Last edited by DisableTV#5850 on Mar 18, 2014, 10:54:05 AM
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DisableTV wrote:
I like the idea really much, but i will not say your passive tree is any good, to many small notes that really don't overall give that much so a bit more travel and you overall gain much more. but yeah thats my opinion.

I would go with windripper bow, the new boots and the same chest as you, so the same setup in items just a other passive tree, and in 6L chest i would use coc/barrage/gmp/fireball/artic breath/conc and for bow i woul use, LA/GMP/Coc/Arc/Ice Spear/Faster attack, all gems ofc 20/20 and i would use Thiefs ring and hold 2 auras, grace and haste :) i would not be going for any power charges because my crit chance would be about 50% with windripper so really no need for the power charges. Should i go for power charges i would for sure use voll's chest and cold snap in my bow and not ice spear.

Acc i would get from Quiver and helm with the 40% un top of that from the passive tree you would have around 88% chance to hit as lvl 90 and thats very close to the hard cap, that should be more then enough with that attack speed and crit chance :) You don't really need more then 300% critical multi %, you get more then that you just end up killing your self to reflect all the time and it's not really because your clearing speed will be that much more fast with more critical multi %.

Not sure you like my spin on it, but i think your idea is great and Hyrri's is such a COOL! chest even that everybody looks down on it.




Keep happy :) And thanks again for the idea, love it.

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Hey thnx for the feedback, and no worries, the more discussion, the better I'd say!

As for my spec, I fail to see how I'm wasting points. 30% to avoid being stunned is kinda crucial, since we'll have next to no armor, and the last thing you want is to somehow get stun locked and die due to entropy. Of course that depends on your careful playing, but you know this game and its randomness+desync, and opening chest in Ambush would be very dangerous. Projectile damage nodes give more damage to everything and only take 2 points. I admit the ES+eva nodes are a bit of a waste. The status ailment node, again, meh.

The Crit multi nodes are a toss up, but I guess losing 45% isn't too big a deal.

Based off your feedback, how's a 80 spec like this look?



A 90 or so spec would be like this:



Edited again: Gets really good ias, more evasion, and much more damage at the sake of 4% less life + aura nodes that you've taken. Though I think we'll have trouble with resist, especially if Rat's Nest is the BiS helm for the build, so Purity and Grace for aura's sounds like a good idea with Theif's torment to maintain mana instead of Clarity.
-[2.0] Tokyo's CoC Hybrid Damage Frostblader ---> view-thread/1401907
-[2.0] The Samurai (2H Crit Katana Wild Striker) ---> view-thread/1368690
-[2.0] Dyadus Elemental Wild Strike - Cheap and Beginner friendly! ---> view-thread/1394595
Last edited by TokyoToho#5485 on Mar 18, 2014, 4:12:47 PM
I'm sorry man, but i would still go with my build, overall it just gives a lot more then you build that is needed, and heart of oak is really not that good when you think about it, to open a chest, fast do that press a quiksilver and run back takes 0.5 second. yes a stun can be fucked but its only 30% so just have a eye of chauella neckless or how you spell that :P take that on for the moment you will open chest then it's 100% and you safet points. you are taking to many small notes that overall gives you not that big of a boost and where you can get so much more just with a small travel, but you know what? try it out thats always the best you can do, if it works then plz tell me and i will reedoe my build a bit :)

And for taking the aura nodes is because then you can run with 2x 60% and use thiefs ring and still have about 120 mana left over so you can spam the shit out of your skill, and then remember grace will be about 3k ev and haste about 21% attack speed, and for me the attack speed is everythink :)

If it is i am streaming 12 hours a day and have a mumble open for anybody, you are more then welcome to join my mumble and we can talk everythink over and do some mathematics calculation on the build, you and mine :)

But danm nice, i love to talk about this kind of shit :) what makes poe so good :)

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Last edited by DisableTV#5850 on Mar 19, 2014, 5:40:04 AM
Fangs:

This i think you will like :) look over it all, and this is something i will add to my own guide, don't vory i will ofc be nameing you as co greater :P



Windripper 6L Gems: CoC/LA/GMP/Freezing Pulse/Ice Spear/EK or Faster Attack
Hyrri'es Chest 6L Gems: CoC/Barrage/GMP/Fireball/Artic Breath/Conc

Other items needed: Thiefs ring - Victario's Acuity and ofc Atziri's boots.

Auras: Grace and Purity og elements, get GG belt then you can go with haste and not purity



This i Think will be inzane :)

Building it right now :)

Keep Happy

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Last edited by DisableTV#5850 on Mar 20, 2014, 5:37:18 AM
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Fangs:

This i think you will like :) look over it all, and this is something i will add to my own guide, don't vory i will ofc be nameing you as co greater :P



Windripper 6L Gems: CoC/LA/GMP/Freezing Pulse/Ice Spear/EK or Faster Attack
Hyrri'es Chest 6L Gems: CoC/Barrage/GMP/Fireball/Artic Breath/Conc

Other items needed: Thiefs ring - Victario's Acuity and ofc Atziri's boots.

Auras: Grace and Purity og elements, get GG belt then you can go with haste and not purity



This i Think will be inzane :)

Building it right now :)

Keep Happy

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ah well, like I said, this would be my first CoC so your probably right in every aspect :p I'm not even sure you would need more damage after watching that one guys vid on your thread haha

and thnx, would appreciate the credit if everything works out :) As I won't be able to test this build myself due to being busy with life and other things, simply don't have to time to sink in to test it well, and got other builds I'm in the process of making/leveling/farming.

But gl to you good sir!
-[2.0] Tokyo's CoC Hybrid Damage Frostblader ---> view-thread/1401907
-[2.0] The Samurai (2H Crit Katana Wild Striker) ---> view-thread/1368690
-[2.0] Dyadus Elemental Wild Strike - Cheap and Beginner friendly! ---> view-thread/1394595

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