Leech: GGG clarify please!
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mark what is happening when you attack a monstergroup with an aoe attack with vaal pact??
do you only leech the amount ot the biggest hit instant and the others are ignored or do you leech from all monsterd simultaniusly and no leech is ignored? is it correct that we can see vaal pact as a leech with an extremly high regeneration rate? so not instant but EXTREMLY high. If yes this would explain how normal leech works and instant leech works. ING: "MeneaterMildrid" or "WICKEDSICKmoves"
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" No, you can see it as life on hit that depends on damage done and works on spells. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs. ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/balancedux]► ◄[www.moddb.com/mods/one-vision1]► Last edited by raics#7540 on Mar 5, 2014, 6:13:58 AM
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" I would guess you leech from most of them, since the AOE skills won't hit them all at the same time. Some will be hit slightly before otehrs. I guess only in the case where you hit two or more actually simultanious (should be rather rare) you would get only the higher regen Proud 5th duelist in the Jul 1 2012 Ladder Race and in the Nov 3 2012 Solo Turbo Race :D
And even prouder 4th Templar in the Nov 10 Four-hour Party Hardcore Race :P Current OB success: top 20 Ranger in 105 Minute Turbo Solo (S4E9) |
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Some AoE skills and gem setups do hit simultaneously. It would be nice to get a confirmation on what happens then with VP.
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I am glad I found this thread, because the "largest one" in the patch notes is so ambiguous that I thought it means the largest total amount, which is pointless when all leeches have the same rate, and could result in a normal rate leech to lay over a quality one. Which took me hours to figure out.
You won't have my gear.
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" VP is instant. You get the full amount right then and there (well, not exactly full due to the new penalty but you get the idea). |
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" They don't, it's either one hit or not. And if it's not, there was some sequence to it, 'simultaneous hits' don't exist here. Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" if thats true i might try out the new vaal pact with my life based character because i have no liferegen anyway^^ Depends on the new tree. ING: "MeneaterMildrid" or "WICKEDSICKmoves"
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" Simultaneous hits may not exist from a game logic standpoint. But this isn't actually explained on any tooltip or in-game reference. From a simple player's view like mine, Rain of Arrows for example starts doing damage to all monsters at the same time. This is why the question asked above is valid - can a dev explain what happens at the code level? |
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" Same thing that happened before with VP (and the reason why crit builds used it to combat reflect): An aoe with vp hits 10mobs Engine checks damage on the mob1 Engine reflects damage from mob1 Vp heals you from damage done from this mob Engine checks damage on mob2 Reflects Leeches Mob3 Etcetcetc. If they mob doesn't have reflect just remove it from the process, that means that with vp you will heal for every moib hit. |
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