Corrupting items can reroll the mods. Wtf?

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anubite wrote:

The random reroll allows it to get unusual stats though, so I'm okay with it.

Huge risk for corrupting an item, but huge rewards too. It seems people who are actually willing to play the game are going to get a lot out of vaal orbs.

He's links a re-rolled item and it's trash and has nothing unique. He does say there's interesting things that can happen, but in this case it's just vendor trash, I don't think I'll be risking that on high end gear, maybe leveling but ya.

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Reoxy wrote:

What is the point of this? Now no one is gonna corrupt good items, becouse theres a chance that it makes it useless. Kinda stupid.

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/path-of-exile-sacrifice-of-the-vaal-now-playing/2300-6417445/

Chris says so in this video.

Did you expect it to only do good things to your items?

If its not gambling then its not GGG approved.

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tramshed wrote:

You can also see it reflected in people who never use thier currency to craft and only use it for trade. They are afraid of having bad luck and it costing more currency than the trade would have to get what they want, but they seem to very rarely take into account that they might have good luck and it will cost less.

Have you ever tried crafting? The RNG in this game is 99.99% chance to have bad luck and .01% chance to hit the lottery. Many of us understand odds and know gambling rarely pays off.

I craft all of my gear. Trading isnt my thing.

So, I actually think this is a very good thing. But you need to look at Vaals from a broad perspective to understand why. I wrote a post explaining why item rerolling and therefore Vaals will be good for the overall economy here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/548056/page/3#p7021923

Layering system after system on top of each other like this is going to quickly become very frustrating for your average player. I hope it isn't a full reroll of affixes.

To explain why, in a design sense, I'll give you the use cases of this orb.

1) You've got an item that is very good already and want to give it a good Vaal mod. You have an Eternal and pray to RNGesus your currency, insanely valuable as this orb will be, isn't wasted.

No one is going to use a Vaal on this without an Eternal unless they're stupid. This is obvious to anyone who knows how the orb works. Eternals, already extremely expensive, get more valuable. Vaals are rarely, if ever, used on good items without the backing of a wealthy player. The item is now a high-end luxury for already-wealthy players. Rich get richer, etc.

2) You're crafting an item. You've probably already got a ton of currency, anyway; go back to use case 1.

3) Unique items. Here is where the vast majority of orbs will go. Most people have access to the good uniques (not the god uniques, but those are expensive, just a subset of 1.) The good uniques are now better. Depending on how good the mods are, some uniques could be better, the bar for a 'good' rare could be raised, uniques could be even more ubiquitous past a certain level....

A lot of this depends on how rare the orb will be, how good the mods will be, and how often the good mods will show up. If it's comparable to Exalts/Eternals, prepare for an even more top-heavy economy, an even higher aversion to using currency, and, probably regardless of how these turn out, more players whining.

Yeap at 14m18. Thanks.

Okay : WTB 4 regret orbs, offer 12 vaal orbs..

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culblade wrote:

What would you think if the Vaal Orb had similar odds to the Orb of Chance?
That is odds for getting something useful.
Mark my words. Vaal Orb = Orb of Chance = Crap 99% of the rolls.

Chris said it's going to havea droprate similar to chaos orb droprate.
Eventhough, it will be less valuable than a chaos after a month or two and might even become less valuable than an alch, imo.

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culblade wrote:

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Inexium2 wrote:

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culblade wrote:

What would you think if the Vaal Orb had similar odds to the Orb of Chance?
That is odds for getting something useful.
Mark my words. Vaal Orb = Orb of Chance = Crap 99% of the rolls.

Chris said it's going to havea droprate similar to chaos orb droprate.
Eventhough, it will be less valuable than a chaos after a month or two and might even become less valuable than an alch, imo.

I'm not talking drop rate. I'm talking mods rolled by the orbs. Orb of Chance is usually crap, I bet that the Vaal Orb will be mostly be crap too.

Sorry it looks like i did not read your comment at all.
I can't understand how a Divine orb applied on a low roll Andvarius can give you the same roll. On the other hand, a lot of players will seek that 1% before becoming traders and hoarders.