Analysis of current summons and speculation on 1.0.6 (the summoner's patch)

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Sexcalibure wrote:

GGG had ONE thing... only ONE to increase Summoning potential and they missed it

Transform searing Bond in a Support gem

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Searing Bond: Creates a burning link between you and your minions or/and your totems which are supported by this gem.

Tadam Solved

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sidtherat wrote:

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Sexcalibure wrote:

GGG had ONE thing... only ONE to increase Summoning potential and they missed it

Transform searing Bond in a Support gem

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Searing Bond: Creates a burning link between you and your minions or/and your totems which are supported by this gem.

Tadam Solved

ive been saying it for a long time - searing bond (and barrage) are support gems that somehow miss the 'support' tag

as for the summoners

Animate Weapon IS a decent skill but you have to use anger/wrath+minion speed and keep summoning these swords. they really do all right as a dmg and very good as meatshield. what i miss is 'summon blue unID weapon' because chances for someone to ID a blue and then summon it are ZERO

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Warzone129 wrote:

If they nerf high level summoners I will be baffled...

Summoners running 77/78 maps with hard mods solo or groups, even with all the purity auras and all the minion passives and all the gems to make them tanky still have massive troubles with bosses because the huge amount of aoe and the lack of being able to control what your minions do.

Im lvl 95 and iv ran countless maps and I know this- summoners at high level need a buff to minion survivability not a nerf. Yes you can abuse Cast on death and that shit should be removed.

But if they want to remove snapshotting they need to give some massive survivibily buffs to minions to make summoner end game viable. And please don't post "my summoner does end game fine" if you haven't ran 77/78 maps with double bosses solo as a summoner to know what you are talking about.

There something wrong if im running all 3 fire/ice/light resits auras disc and vitality and im having my lvl 78 specters with minion life and all minion passives get destroyed by a crematorium or courtyard boss with no mods. That shit needs fixing. They are resist capped and have the max life allowed by the game yet stil cant survive.

We need-

1. a button to make minions passive/aggressive or some way to control them better or recall them.

2. Huge buff to minion hp to allow you to build more tanky minions by sacrificing dps if you must.

3. Minions to stay alive when you DC or log out!!!!!! I want to keep the lvl 78 specters I worked very hard to summon and find in high lvl maps. I don't want to leave my computer on for days just so I don't need 10 min of prep time and 5 exalteds in maps to find them every day.


Also animate guardian if fine as it is. People just haven't figured out how to properly use it. Iv had one for about 1 week now and hes been doing 70-78 maps just fine (wearing full set of uniques)

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reboticon wrote:

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Warzone129 wrote:

If they nerf high level summoners I will be baffled...

Summoners running 77/78 maps with hard mods solo or groups, even with all the purity auras and all the minion passives and all the gems to make them tanky still have massive troubles with bosses because the huge amount of aoe and the lack of being able to control what your minions do.

Im lvl 95 and iv ran countless maps and I know this- summoners at high level need a buff to minion survivability not a nerf. Yes you can abuse Cast on death and that shit should be removed.

But if they want to remove snapshotting they need to give some massive survivibily buffs to minions to make summoner end game viable. And please don't post "my summoner does end game fine" if you haven't ran 77/78 maps with double bosses solo as a summoner to know what you are talking about.

There something wrong if im running all 3 fire/ice/light resits auras disc and vitality and im having my lvl 78 specters with minion life and all minion passives get destroyed by a crematorium or courtyard boss with no mods. That shit needs fixing. They are resist capped and have the max life allowed by the game yet stil cant survive.

We need-

1. a button to make minions passive/aggressive or some way to control them better or recall them.

2. Huge buff to minion hp to allow you to build more tanky minions by sacrificing dps if you must.

3. Minions to stay alive when you DC or log out!!!!!! I want to keep the lvl 78 specters I worked very hard to summon and find in high lvl maps. I don't want to leave my computer on for days just so I don't need 10 min of prep time and 5 exalteds in maps to find them every day.


Also animate guardian if fine as it is. People just haven't figured out how to properly use it. Iv had one for about 1 week now and hes been doing 70-78 maps just fine (wearing full set of uniques)

Not every build can run double boss 78 maps solo. I don't know whgy you would think that.

Besides you can get by with animate guardian. You just said so.

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werezompire wrote:

I wish there were more options for quality over quantity with summoning in PoE.

Right now, there are 6 summon clusters in the passive tree and all of them are general purpose clusters: +10% Life to Summons and/or +15% Damage to Summons with a +Quantity node at the end. I think it would be a lot more interesting if there were some clusters that only affected a certain type of summon but had bigger bonuses for that type as well as a more interesting special node.

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reboticon wrote:

Summoners are going to get buffed at low levels and hit with a hard nerf at higher levels. I promise.