The surprisingly obnoxious synergies of some map mods... /rant

Temp chains + chilled ground + extra cold damage. That is one cold map.

I'm glad to be a summoner though. I may be slow, but my zombies don't share the burden. Not to mention their natural resistance to cold makes them more resiliant.

The worst synergies I've probably run into is multiple projectiles, projectiles chain, and I run a map inhabited by undying alchemists/incinerators and/or tentacle miscreations/plumed chimerais. The map is full of lawnmowers, and my zombies are nothing more than grass to them.

People need to stop derailing this topic. Take your boring sc vs hc discussion elsewhere.

The OP is just discussing map mods.

Temp chains and *anything* is really obnoxious. Lately, I've been despising another combo a lot more, though. Curse immunity and enfeeble.

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Antnee wrote:

Temp chains and *anything* is really obnoxious. Lately, I've been despising another combo a lot more, though. Curse immunity and enfeeble.

Is it just worth re-rolling temp chains whenever it shows up?

It seems like it shouldn't be that tough of a mod but I wind up with a lot of weird deaths in temp chains maps :\

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nvm

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skinnay wrote:

you lose a stable economy if you continue playing in SC

you lose anything you accumulated in your stash if you continue playing in SC

you lose the ability to play with friends in that league

if you ever do group play you lose the ability to play with good players. public parties in SC are just repeated deathfests

so it's either that or you reroll in HC, which is essentially the same thing as permadeath/losing the character. barely any HC player will die and then continue playing in softcore. don't get technical about the fact that the character is still there.

1. and 2.) You dont. You can restart in HC with your Stash all full of your gear and currency BUT the ones you died to SC. Nothing more lost then a bad attempt to 6L or "craft yourself" most of the time. Also, even if you want to continue in SC with your accumulated valuables you can just die them to SC.

3. and 4.) With Shiverstings and Rigvalds charges dropping that often you can pretty much lvl up to 65~ in about 10h playtime. And if you really got friends and a stash full of usefull armor you can pull that of as fast as in SC. A knew character is made pretty fast and the only thing lost are higher skill lvl gems. I just see it it as a bad attempt of crating again. A lvl 20 gem is worth ~ 50-70 fuses, I've burned 20 times that much on an actual armor without 6linkeing.

4.) Yeah. That Etop or whatever his name was death. So skillfull "Lol fell asleep while playing, didn't see that 17 stacks of CB."

So losing a charcter in HC isn't much more losing then the "crafting" does for me anyway. In some cases HC is even easier, because prices are less. For the same Chaos i get more value in HC tehn in SC, and farming Piety isn't really "hard" but a fucking chore.

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skinnay wrote:

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Dudldude wrote:

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skinnay wrote:

complaining about dying in softcore, wonderful. this definitely needed to be a thread topic

sorry but i cant see him complaining

com·plain
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verb
1.
express dissatisfaction or annoyance about a state of affairs or an event.



Hmm, maybe you should try reading the post? Because he's undeniably complaining.

just a matter of interpretation i guess.

this is my interpretation of the post

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The OP is just discussing map mods.

As some others have mentioned, there are a few ways to help yourself in this situation:
The best one is leap slam, it is my (humble) opinion that any functional melee build (that has the correct weapon type) should have a leap slam gem somewhere that they can use (if you can't use leap slam, and you can use whirling blades... that works too, just not quite as well).

This is also a scenario where having a quicksilver flask could actually be offensively/defensively useful.

I always try to have one flask slot on a character that I can swap out for whatever I really need for a given map (if there is some reason I should have whatever flask in question).

Good luck in there, and consider trying to get a leapslam or whirling blades gem into your build somewhere for mobility, it can really be life and death. Leap slam can also help you with being rooted by bear traps, for situations where that applies.

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kasub wrote:

People need to stop derailing this topic. Take your boring sc vs hc discussion elsewhere.

The OP is just discussing map mods.

Right.

Had a lvl 78 Courtyard with Onslaught mod, + 98% Lightning dmg and double unique boss, a warlords mark mod and + 24% rare or so.

Thought i could permastun them with my mace mara, turned out i was wrong even with 5linked HS.

Also, Tempchains + Chilledgrounds = never again.