Map invading....this BS has gone to far

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Wittgenstein wrote:

I have to say, I have no idea what this is about. honestly.

You start a map and make it a public party and then are mad when people join? Not being a dick, I just have no clue what this is about. Why use a map for trading?

Traders aren't using maps for trading, they're simply using maps to play as normal until someone responds to their ad. Can't expect a trader to stand around like a derp, boring themselves to death, while waiting for someone to pop up and buy/sell them something. :P

This doesn't strike me as some question of player behavior and ethics.

The reality is, you can't mix playing and trading. There's no universal rule in the TOS that limits this kind of action.

Perhaps GGG should put in a "hostile button", so if you're mapping while wanting to trade, things can from this kind of bad to worse for you.

Hmmmn? Maybe it's worth to put this as a suggestion in the suggestion forum!

Live with it, life isn't fair and PoE isn't going to fair. You can complain about it though but likely it won't change anything.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

Here's a better one they can use:
Suppose you are going to a public park in order to have a picnic with your friends and/or family. Random people don't join in because it's obviously a picnic. Then suddenly comes another group of friends wanting to play football or some sport so they play in close proximity to the picnic in order to scare them off. And when the picnic-goers complain, the other group chimes in 'this is a public park and we have every right to be here, it's not our fault you're in our way'. All the while, the football players are eating what the picnic-goers brought with them.

Needs some refinement.

A guy goes to the park looking to join a pickup game of flag football, which was the stated reason for funding the park in the first place. However, when he gets there, every square inch of the park is covered by vile, fetid, filthy derelicts who are loitering about, smoking dope and defecating and urinating all over the place. The guy can't find any groups playing flag football through all of the derelicts. The park has been ruined and no longer serves its intended purpose, but the derelicts point out that they are not technically breaking any rules.

After many appeals to the city and the derelicts fall on deaf ears, the guy and some of his friends join the derelicts and swipe some of their dope out of sheer frustration. All of the sudden the derelicts are keenly interested in intervention from the city after months of scoffing at the reasonable expectations of the regular flag football park goers.

A better analogy for invaders would be this:

It's like going to a public visit for house selling only to eat the buffet without intending to buy the house.

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faerwin wrote:

A better analogy for invaders would be this:

It's like going to a public visit for house selling only to eat the buffet without intending to buy the house.

Except the house for sale is actually a public park full of music show hippies that refuse to go where they belong.

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TheDancingDead wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

A better analogy for invaders would be this:

It's like going to a public visit for house selling only to eat the buffet without intending to buy the house.

Except the house for sale is actually a public park full of music show hippies that refuse to go where they belong.

Except the music show hippies are actually the poor and homeless people being forced to return to the sewers and dark alleys to remain forgotten while their situation gets increasingly worse.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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TheDancingDead wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

A better analogy for invaders would be this:

It's like going to a public visit for house selling only to eat the buffet without intending to buy the house.

Except the house for sale is actually a public park full of music show hippies that refuse to go where they belong.

Except the music show hippies are actually the poor and homeless people being forced to return to the sewers and dark alleys to remain forgotten while their situation gets increasingly worse.

The same sewers and dark alleys we ALL live in until our nice new mansions are built.

Ooh this looks fun, let me try.

So there is this basketball court in the city, but it is all filled up with people who have set up trestle tables or blankets and are selling random trinkets. They are not just doing a market day, they are there all the time. Some basketball players are upset that they can't use the court anymore for playing. Then one of them has a bright idea: "Let's just go and play basketball anyway, that will piss them off." So they do.

I think this analogy is the best because it summarises the motivations of both parties fairly accurately, and it has a similar order of magnitude of harm caused to the actual situation. (Unlike: The basketball players get guns and kill the trader's children). It also reflects that the original use of the boards is making groups to play, without implying that selling stuff there is in some way immoral or destructive.

I suggest we do analogy competitions on all the whining about nothing threads. Next up: Invasion bosses are way too hard analogies.

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xSyK0TiC wrote:

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CassCE wrote:

So you created a public party.

Then people joined your public party.

Which is the entire point of public parties.

I believe "Working as Intended" goes here.

Yup its working. If I had a gun and shot someones kid, and they then complained about it, would you be so sarcastic as to say, "Well, its working as intended".

Not even close to the same thing.

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Kaptainpuha wrote:

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mazul wrote:

2 problems with that:

1. Real life is not a game.

2. It is illegal to steal a car even if it is unlocked.

fair point, people aren't breaking any game rules here, just taken advantage of other players

Just like OP is abusing the public party system to sell his crap.
Fair game to abuse his maps then imo.

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Tenai91 wrote:

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xSyK0TiC wrote:

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Tenai91 wrote:

thats good, thumbs up for the 6 guys.

Yeah attack the problem, with another problem. Thats great. Not quite. Considering a game that is based mostly upon the trading of items, the trade functionality in PoE is atrocious. The board is used as an all-in-one. If it was not supposed to be used in such a way GGG would have countermeasures in place, just like spamming 10 times over a post in /trade 1 is not allowed.

you're using the board wrong, they are not. end. i dont care about anything else :)

He is using the board correctly, they are scumbag griefers. end. I don't care for your incorrect opinion :)