Chris Wilson on "Bachir Boumaaza" aka Athene stream

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ahcos wrote:

Thanks for sharing. I want to point out that apparently they made alot of these things people complain about in a clear state of mind - they DESIGNED the so called "flaws" because they wanted to have certain things in their game. Imo, that's awesome.

Desync's still a bitch. :) But even though it cost me my life several times now (one time in hardcore and dozens of times in softcore) - i rather have desync than cheaters, so i agree with GGG here. Chose for yourself what you think is more acceptable.

Also wanna point out: the part on logging out actually convinced me, although i rather was against it before. Well done, GGG & Chris. I guess it's hard to deal with crybabies like me, but thanks for trying your best.

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CapitalPunishment wrote:

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syrioforel wrote:

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CapitalPunishment wrote:

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Lots of good points. I also worry for the game. I'm sure they worry more. It's their livelihood, and my entertainment.

If they are truly making the game they would want to play, though, then that's how it is and I respect it. I wouldn't ask them to compromise their design philosophy, as doing so would produce a mediocre game. There are parts of PoE that are "not for me," and I'm happy just avoiding those parts.

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Ishiga25 wrote:

I'd say the same were those parts I'd like to avoid not integral to one's enjoyment at times.

Bit of a catch 22 in the end.

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CapitalPunishment wrote:

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ahcos wrote:

Thanks for sharing. I want to point out that apparently they made alot of these things people complain about in a clear state of mind - they DESIGNED the so called "flaws" because they wanted to have certain things in their game. Imo, that's awesome.

Desync's still a bitch. :) But even though it cost me my life several times now (one time in hardcore and dozens of times in softcore) - i rather have desync than cheaters, so i agree with GGG here. Chose for yourself what you think is more acceptable.

Also wanna point out: the part on logging out actually convinced me, although i rather was against it before. Well done, GGG & Chris. I guess it's hard to deal with crybabies like me, but thanks for trying your best.

Im not so sure about that. Yeah having planned flaws in the game because it makes them remember the exact D2 experience they had...works fine for the niche hardcore crowd.

If this game wants to grow, and eventually they will need to...they are going to have to realize that its not 1998 and games and expectations have come a long way.

You can improve quality of life, give game options and leagues that the developer might not personally enjoy, and keep the game complex and hardcore.

I think that was the main take that I got out of this. Even if there are ways to give people what they want without making the game stray from their vision they probably wont do it.

That makes me a bit nervous about the game.

I like the game, even if im waiting for desync to be fixed before playing more...but there are a lot of issues the game has, and I don't think they are interested in addressing them in a unique way that retains the games hardcorness.

Mind you players don't usually start as a hardcore player, the game will turn them to one. When there are major glaring issues in game by design...that turns those players away...you need those players to grow...and eventually they will want to grow.

Also on a side note. Ive been dabbling in another ARPG made by some guy who made d1/d2. There is no trading, everything decent is BOA. Having no trading and actually playing it...changed my views to a true believer. This is how it should be. Get geared by playing not by trading. Also not a single RMT spam EVER in that game and its free.

I think its sort of a mistake to think the lack of trading ruins the game...it removes way more issues than it creates, and the created issues...well...I don't think people realize how little they will miss trading until they actually are gearing up with the only option to do so...playing. Oh and this game does have an AH, poe.xyz...no point pretending there isn't an AH in the game.

I know the defense supporters will put their fingers in their ears and go "lalalala" but like I said, eventually this game is going to need to grow beyond its niche crowd.

Oh and its great to hear the developer shrug off desync as a fabricated issue. Not good for me when im on break for my second time because of the issue.