Crit Dagger - Lightning Strike - EB + IR

I got my Beta key fairly late, and thus I haven't had time to play the later dificulties yet.
However I have been lurking the foums the past couple of weeks pretty vigorously.

The time I managed to scrape together in-game have been spent, trying to get a feel for the different classes and play-styles. What really took a shine to me was the melee Shadow.
Mainly because it feels relativly fluid compared to other builds, but also because of the fact I love the LS animation.

After taking a long look at Invalesco's crit dagger build aswell as other builds found here on the foums, I decided for a HP-based build. Mainly because of the rumoured re-balancing of CI (which seems to me will make it close to useless for melee's, but we'll see about that)

Here is what I have come up with:



I know 97 points is a LOT, but I wanted to display the entirety of the build.

Lightning strike will be the bread and butter skill for this build, used for clearing out the larger packs. The single target skills are interchangeable, personally I prefer viper strike & flicker strike.

As for auras, I would aim for Wrath, Hatred, Vitality & Determination.
In order to support this amount of auras I assume you are gonna need a pure ES shield, while you can focus the rest of the gear mainly on evasion as the defensive stat.

As earlier stated, I have no experience with the end-game. And as such I ask for feedback, concerning the survivability of the build. Enough health-nodes? Are there obvious flaws with the build visible? How much evasion rating can one stack, and what impact will it have on the survivability?

There are probably a lot more concerns I haven't thought about, so feel free to imput whatever critique/thoughts you have.


I would be thankfull for any help I can get.

Arschas
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Arschas wrote:
I got my Beta key fairly late, and thus I haven't had time to play the later dificulties yet.
However I have been lurking the foums the past couple of weeks pretty vigorously.

The time I managed to scrape together in-game have been spent, trying to get a feel for the different classes and play-styles. What really took a shine to me was the melee Shadow.
Mainly because it feels relativly fluid compared to other builds, but also because of the fact I love the LS animation.

After taking a long look at Invalesco's crit dagger build aswell as other builds found here on the foums, I decided for a HP-based build. Mainly because of the rumoured re-balancing of CI (which seems to me will make it close to useless for melee's, but we'll see about that)

Here is what I have come up with:



I know 97 points is a LOT, but I wanted to display the entirety of the build.

Lightning strike will be the bread and butter skill for this build, used for clearing out the larger packs. The single target skills are interchangeable, personally I prefer viper strike & flicker strike.

As for auras, I would aim for Wrath, Hatred, Vitality & Determination.
In order to support this amount of auras I assume you are gonna need a pure ES shield, while you can focus the rest of the gear mainly on evasion as the defensive stat.

As earlier stated, I have no experience with the end-game. And as such I ask for feedback, concerning the survivability of the build. Enough health-nodes? Are there obvious flaws with the build visible? How much evasion rating can one stack, and what impact will it have on the survivability?

There are probably a lot more concerns I haven't thought about, so feel free to imput whatever critique/thoughts you have.


I would be thankfull for any help I can get.

Arschas



http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB_5MhwLMObWwPq7VIUzXndG17Nnth4t72VUvLQYfb6NaMNiaVcrsWv83q6xTz6o2_cFLAUVFH3vhw1eOEMHyquKR4iGsOSH8rqn_B1RnXtvcRlqc0d9eHGREvf8ado1bqdEEnqX5ZoqP8qwV9pMIUdVb6Wm2sZsHz6f4OrfzF3UYkPNh2gh65fEOcKaVnoGOn_E6nXCzhiELbCxjbh3ZJUY6KkBt08Up9cFYhYJ65mhNAoNvUBS1gS3rvdO3Wig==

look at this build, can be better. krips one <-

what stats would you look in the armor, stacking ES? evasion?
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do you guys know what aura's kripp was planning to run?
Why would anyone go EB and not go over to the witch/termplar area of the tree and get the +30% aura effect nodes? I thought the point of EB was to run lots of auras.
@ garfsbastian

To me, that build looks very sloppy, with a few completly wasted points.
For instance the detour to get EB & Arrow Dodging.
Don't know who told you it was Kripps build, but I would imagine someone who plays games for a living can do better.

@ Skol

Try to get the time to listen in to his streams, and you'll eventually learn what skills he prefers. Personally I would assume he will run the auras the community currently see as "Core" for many builds.
As for this build I would recommend:
Hatred
Wrath
Discipline
Grace
Vitality

@ pr0fesser

We are all limited by the available passive skill points for any given build.
I can't get both IR and the aura effect nodes into a single build without sacrificing a lot of good/descent nodes. But yes, EB allows for a lot of auras without wasting many points into mana nodes, and the only cost is a slight drop of defences. And for most Dagger crit shadows it will only cost 2 additional points to get it, due to it's location.
By any means, if you can rationalize a drop of nodes in order to get the aura buffs, please share it with the rest of us, because it could be very proficient.
@ Arschas that is actually kripps build LS shadow he plans to use on OB running dagger/shield says its better than his LS ranger take into consideration he made the build on the alpha tree so some skills may be different tested this build last night never knew you could face take burtus and merveil so easy with a shadow :D im still in normal but right now the dmg is insane and the survivability is fairly good especialy since i havent gotten many survivability nodes yet i would def recommend using kripps build that the 2nd guy in this post linked i check it with mine and kripp linked the same build last night in stream it is really amazing im def using this on OB
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tariss wrote:
@ Arschas that is actually kripps build LS shadow he plans to use on OB running dagger/shield says its better than his LS ranger take into consideration he made the build on the alpha tree so some skills may be different tested this build last night never knew you could face take burtus and merveil so easy with a shadow :D im still in normal but right now the dmg is insane and the survivability is fairly good especialy since i havent gotten many survivability nodes yet i would def recommend using kripps build that the 2nd guy in this post linked i check it with mine and kripp linked the same build last night in stream it is really amazing im def using this on OB


But why did he take arrow dodge and iron reflex at the same time? ,in that link garfsbastian provided.

where can i look into kripparrians new shadowbuild??? do u have a link? would be great!

and this is what i found on reddit that is supposed to be kripparians build:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAA9sFfQ5IDq0RLxGWFHUVIBa_GdceGiP2JDwmlSepKCoppSpNLOEs6TBUMn41hjWSNns6szrhPydD0kk7SVFKfU7IUzVVS1bqVvpaSFptYeJnoGh0bBZs9m1sbXtuqnBScFZw1XJ-crt0QX5Zf8aCHoLkg9uHdofbiEKIa4jxiq-MNo6KkBuUoJlXmhObtZ2jnaqkwqZXpn-nNKdcrGauk7GztUi297l8uc3AUcHFwzrEuMpKy0HOcdN-1fjYTdh22mLbC9vU3Q3jhOn-7UHuDu_w8Nnz6vxL_Kv8xf-T

this looks more convincing...
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as i said its the one the first guy linked he did not take arrow dodging mostly all stacking crit and dagger attack speed + survivability through IR evasion
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB_5MhwLMObWwPq7VIUzXndG17Nnth4t72VUvLQYfb6NaMNiaVcrsWv83q6xTz6o2_cFLAUVFH3vhw1eOEMHyquKR4iGsOSH8rqn_B1RnXtvcRlqc0d9eHGREvf8ado1bqdEEnqX5ZoqP8qwV9pMIUdVb6Wm2sZsHz6f4OrfzF3UYkPNh2gh65fEOcKaVnoGOn_E6nXCzhiELbCxjbh3ZJUY6KkBt08Up9cFYhYJ65mhNAoNvUBS1gS3rvdO0=

edit: oh wait your totaly right just look at my link its the updated one i guess i know he doesnt take arrow dodging normaly this is the builds hes been linkin in stream yesterday so i guess its newest
Last edited by tariss#2877 on Jan 21, 2013, 1:10:39 PM
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tariss wrote:
as i said its the one the first guy linked he did not take arrow dodging mostly all stacking crit and dagger attack speed + survivability through IR evasion
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB_5MhwLMObWwPq7VIUzXndG17Nnth4t72VUvLQYfb6NaMNiaVcrsWv83q6xTz6o2_cFLAUVFH3vhw1eOEMHyquKR4iGsOSH8rqn_B1RnXtvcRlqc0d9eHGREvf8ado1bqdEEnqX5ZoqP8qwV9pMIUdVb6Wm2sZsHz6f4OrfzF3UYkPNh2gh65fEOcKaVnoGOn_E6nXCzhiELbCxjbh3ZJUY6KkBt08Up9cFYhYJ65mhNAoNvUBS1gS3rvdO0=

edit: oh wait your totaly right just look at my link its the updated one i guess i know he doesnt take arrow dodging normaly this is the builds hes been linkin in stream yesterday so i guess its newest



do you know what core skillgems he used?
do you have a link to this build?
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tariss wrote:
as i said its the one the first guy linked he did not take arrow dodging mostly all stacking crit and dagger attack speed + survivability through IR evasion
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYB_5MhwLMObWwPq7VIUzXndG17Nnth4t72VUvLQYfb6NaMNiaVcrsWv83q6xTz6o2_cFLAUVFH3vhw1eOEMHyquKR4iGsOSH8rqn_B1RnXtvcRlqc0d9eHGREvf8ado1bqdEEnqX5ZoqP8qwV9pMIUdVb6Wm2sZsHz6f4OrfzF3UYkPNh2gh65fEOcKaVnoGOn_E6nXCzhiELbCxjbh3ZJUY6KkBt08Up9cFYhYJ65mhNAoNvUBS1gS3rvdO0=

edit: oh wait your totaly right just look at my link its the updated one i guess i know he doesnt take arrow dodging normaly this is the builds hes been linkin in stream yesterday so i guess its newest


This can't be Kripp's own refined build. If it really is, he was REALLY tired. He's wasted several points in the starter of the shadow tree, up by the EB node he also wasted points. He would never skip increased physical damage nodes either as they bring double effect to the LS builds as opposed to melee physical damage nodes. He won't skip 24% physical damage for two points for example. Rushing down to the duelist Golem's blood passive without picking up US while he's 5 points away? A 15% attack speed node one point away from the US node? These are things that i can't imagine he would skip out on. He also skipped 24% life for 3 points to the right of mind drinker, he didn't grab 10% es and 10% eva for 1 point in the shadow starter either. Taking that many accuracy nodes with 372 dexterity also makes me suspicious. 8% movement speed 1 point isn't picked up, taking the weapon elemental damage nodes in the core build wouldn't make sense as you will be getting a physical dagger, not a duo/triele one because it will take up to many prefixes for phys dmg mods etc etc etc. I may be wrong, but if I am he will need to refine this very much.

Pics or it didn't happen, I want a link to where you retrieved it or i won't believe you.
RIP in pepperonis my fellow exiles

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