Dexterity Vs Strength

your duelist build is a perfect example of what i pointed out....

melee is currently forced to 1 specific build:

Tank+aoe, my guess is that you are using multistrike+ doublestrike + melee aoe as your main attack and aside from that relying on armor+high health.... that cannot truly be called your own build since it is forced upon you.

take a look at range+caster's who can choose between glass cannon - summoner or survival caster build's.

i've only played this game for 1-2 week's so far and i can agree with you that i am in no way ready to suggest radical change's but i can make some rather weird questions as to why something does not work or why there's a simply build to follow for melee's and ranged have free hand's :/

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Modchristian89 wrote:

your duelist build is a perfect example of what i pointed out....

melee is currently forced to 1 specific build:

Tank+aoe, my guess is that you are using multistrike+ doublestrike + melee aoe as your main attack and aside from that relying on armor+high health.... that cannot truly be called your own build since it is forced upon you.

take a look at tange+caster's who can choose betweenglass cannon - summoner or survival caster build's

Here's the thing though dude..... Nobody can be glass cannon successfully. It just doesn't work at high levels. This isn't an MMO where you fill the "DPS role". You get enough defenses to survive and deal as much damage as you can as an afterthought. Your build will not work under any circumstance in maps. You will die, and die, and die. And then you'll make a bratty post about how you quit, and nobody will care.

The melee versus range disparity is more tipped toward melee at this point honestly. Melee damage output is completely unmatched by ranged, but they run the risk of being in melee range, which is fine.

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JahIthBer89 wrote:

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Modchristian89 wrote:

your duelist build is a perfect example of what i pointed out....

melee is currently forced to 1 specific build:

Tank+aoe, my guess is that you are using multistrike+ doublestrike + melee aoe as your main attack and aside from that relying on armor+high health.... that cannot truly be called your own build since it is forced upon you.

take a look at tange+caster's who can choose betweenglass cannon - summoner or survival caster build's

Here's the thing though dude..... Nobody can be glass cannon successfully. It just doesn't work at high levels. This isn't an MMO where you fill the "DPS role". You get enough defenses to survive and deal as much damage as you can as an afterthought. Your build will not work under any circumstance in maps. You will die, and die, and die. And then you'll make a bratty post about how you quit, and nobody will care.

The melee versus range disparity is more tipped toward melee at this point honestly. Melee damage output is completely unmatched by ranged, but they run the risk of being in melee range, which is fine.

could you have given your explanation without filling 50% of it with unnecessary rude comments ? i dunno about all the supporter title's but it is rather uncommon to see a rude one...

i know this aint an mmo although it is registered as mmo on steam, and i know i will die often since that is what glass cannons do.... and no i don't intend on giving up on my build or the game, i will make alt's but i wont change what i started...

The only builds that can *sorta* clear Act 3 Merciless without much invested in either Life or ES is if you play a summoner or dual totem build, where you are having other things in action for you while you wait away form the action. Even then, it's tough, and if you look at successful mapping builds they all have lots of Life or ES.

Like it or not, there are some truths about the way the harder content in PoE works:

1) No matter what, you need a decent HP pool to make it. You can mitigate damage via Armor or Evasion. Or you can take Vaal Pact and Life Leech incredibly fast by doing tons of damage. You can use an ES build and run away to regen if you take damage. But at the end of the day you need a good HP buffer to take a 1-3 hits at the very least so that you don't die instantly, because none of the damage avoidance mechanics in the game are meant to negate damage to the degree where you don't need a good amount of HP.

2) Evasion is not worse than Armor, they are simply different. The way Armor scales is that the higher the incoming damage, the less effective it is. It also only applies to physical damage. Evasion will avoid any attacks, regardless of physical / elemental / chaos, and there is what is called an 'entropy' system that prevents Evasion based rolls from having incredible streaks of good or bad luck.

that was a truly helpfull n describing reply :)

Meanwhile in Guild Wars 2, building a character focused on health and armour would get you kicked / barred from groups beause 'max DPS Zerkers only to kill stuff fast or GTFO'.

Pure Evasion is the strongest Defencse right now in the game mixed with Dodge and you call it "luck based".

Learn about the game before you say something like this.
Its not Evasion like in Diablo 3, its a guaranteed Evasion Chance!

If you have 50% Evasion, and you are hit 2 times, you will evade the third hit (its VERY unlikely you wont), because the Evasion Chance adds up if you dont evade (generally speaking).

So all your points are pretty much bullshit and your build is really ridiculously weak.

So stop complaining.

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KalHirol wrote:

Pure Evasion is the strongest Defencse right now in the game mixed with Dodge and you call it "luck based".

Learn about the game before you say something like this.
Its not Evasion like in Diablo 3, its a guaranteed Evasion Chance!

If you have 50% Evasion, and you are hit 2 times, you will evade the third hit (its VERY unlikely you wont), because the Evasion Chance adds up if you dont evade (generally speaking).

So all your points are pretty much bullshit and your build is really ridiculously weak.

So stop complaining.

you call a 16,6% (assuming you have 50% evasion low?
even at the cap of 75%
you have a chance of 1,5% of getting hit 3 times in a row (which is low,but a dominus fight can be long)

another thing is there are many things that deal physical dmg where armor works and eva doesnt bear traps,spells,bleedings and RT user (2 of the rouge exiles are using RT by the way)
and if you are using RT or Lioneyes Glare you cant evade your reflect dmg

if you use armor you can still combinate it with blind support gem and be much safer

Evasion is not "luck based". It's almost exactly the opposite. It reduces crit chance against you, quite a bit. That's where most of the real damage comes from.

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Modchristian89 wrote:

your duelist build is a perfect example of what i pointed out....

melee is currently forced to 1 specific build:

Tank+aoe, my guess is that you are using multistrike+ doublestrike + melee aoe as your main attack and aside from that relying on armor+high health.... that cannot truly be called your own build since it is forced upon you.

take a look at range+caster's who can choose between glass cannon - summoner or survival caster build's.

i've only played this game for 1-2 week's so far and i can agree with you that i am in no way ready to suggest radical change's but i can make some rather weird questions as to why something does not work or why there's a simply build to follow for melee's and ranged have free hand's :/

my only armor piece and my main attack both in the same item:

my second attack is puncture/inc duration/inc crit/inc cold (that last one due to sockets and no chromatics but will be melee phys dmg)

so as you can see - yor guess was wrong

i have 3400hp. this is low value. my marauder has 5500 and he uses armor only.
i dont use multistrike at all. neither during leveling or in end game. never. i simply think that it is a brainless gem without style