Help with Mana Regeneration

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IonicSlayer wrote:
I'm interested in how people typically handle creating a sustainable mana pool for Shadows/Rangers. I've made two claw shadows and the path I have liked to take is to the right side of the tree to grab the claw life leech passives. But heading that way in the tree, there are not really any great mana nodes to be taken except for the mana leech node that gives 2% (and I haven't found a good enough DPS claw where that by itself is enough). I'm talking early game (~level 40) here but I would be interested in people's opinions for long term mana management as well. How do YOU tackle mana? Potions, passives, mana leech, gear with +mana/mana regeneration, clarity?

In respect to mana nodes, which are the best to aim for:

% maximum mana
Mana regeneration
% cost reduction of skills
+mana after kill

And roughly how many do you take of each (if any)? Is there any specific gear you find that drastically helps?

There is a mana geyser node between ranger and shadow, which I have never picked up since it is probably about 6 nodes out of my way to grab it, but it seems extremely good with 16% max mana, 40% regen and +10 intel for one node. I'm facing an internal struggle of wanting to spend 7 levels to get it versus chugging potions.

I was running grace and clarity at low gem levels before my last shadow bit the dust. However between those two auras, they ate over half my mana pool which made it difficult to utilize potions effectively because they would fill my remaining mana pool up quickly, but I could burn it back down to zero pretty fast as well.


If you don't want to use one of the links on your main attack for the mana leech gem try using the warlords mark curse. I think my claw shadow has something like 45% life leech 8% mana leech with warlord's and its in the low 40s lvl.

Just take the passive 2% get 1 or 2% from items and use warlord and you'll be golden + you'll Lways have endurance charges
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I am yet to build a char that has a sustainable mana pool ~lvl 40. just use mana flasks until your dps is high enough to get regen from the 2% leech node. I also have used the unique belt that has 2% mana regen for a total of 4% mana regen which makes mana sustainable a lot earlier
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EomMage wrote:
ManaAnd let's bear in mind the op is talking about early to midgame, not endgame, iso if he leeches 2% of 500 dps that's only 10 mana/sec, which is not much.
When the char has matured you can always spec off the regen nodes.

What jewelry and boots are you wearing?

I get +39% mana regen from wanderlust shoes.



I'm not exactly sure how to link items otherwise I would just post them here, but my boots are rare movespeed with lightning and fire resist, a magical ruby ring with 16% mana regen and +life, and a rare sapphire ring with mostly useless mods aside from chaos resistance.

Unfortunately I lost my main level 47 shadow a few days ago so my gear is less than stellar.

I was more just wondering from a general perspective if people actually specced into mana nodes while leveling or for end game. Options seem very limited on the shadow side of the tree to begin with. It seems like most people just aim for leech and use flasks while leveling. I'm not running any auras on my shadow right now which makes the mana situation a lot easier.

Edit: Forgot ammy... which is a really bad magical Turquoise amulet with 5% resist all and spell damage.
Last edited by IonicSlayer#1822 on Jun 21, 2013, 12:41:59 PM

Are helpful if you are Pure Physical and need more Mana Leech than the 2% Passive. Together I have a total of 6% Mana Leech (Passive+Uniques), and it is more than enough with my mediocre dps, even against only 1 target. ^.^
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IonicSlayer wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm still new and had forgotten there was a mana leech skill gem, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. I had been considering running up the tree to grab Eldritch Battery, just wasn't sure if I wanted to sac my energy shield for an increase in mana pool since I'm playing hardcore. It just seems hard to run higher level auras though as the amount of +mana on gear quickly gets outpaced by leveling these gems. And while potions work, it's tough when your available max mana is around 100.

If anyone else has suggestions for mana management while leveling, I'd be interested.


energy shield is nice, but thing is if you are just using a bit of es you get from random gear and you are not speccing huge amounts of es boosting so it regens fast etc its pretty useless. My lvl89 marauder runs discipline, just because I have to capacity to so why not? But even with like 500 energy shield, best it does is absorb a few arrows, it rarely regens back to full in maps because my points are spent on health and armour, not boosting my es on the tree. You got to look at it what its doing for you and make a call if having attack sustainability is going to help you survive more than the amount of es you have, only you can really make that call.

I have an EB witch, when she turns on discipline it reserves mana and gives es, which is then converted into mana, it gives so much more mana than it reserves, I get about 2000 mana with it on and then + clarity = over 100 mana regen per sec. This lets me use artic armour non stop which drains I think 90 something mana per sec (?) at the level I keep it at while moving, then when I stop moving and start attacking the regen is extreme, coupled with leech on 1 attack its infinite mana while using arctic armour all the time. Move + attack using lightning warp when things get mental to prevent needing to actually move and stop the massive regen. Thats how she deals with using eb for mana and keeping decent survivability, its not for every build but its an option to be aware of.
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Sorry for bumping an old topic, but I need help calculating a streamer's mana regen.

I can see he shows off that he has 195.9 mana regen per second with a mana pool of 2832.

Even if I add like 230% mana regen passives it's still nowhere near 195.9. I haven't added clarity, but that might be 30-40 more mana regen per second.

My calculations gone wrong?
If you're talking about passives, forget about it because the tree will change significantly.
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Whoaness wrote:
Sorry for bumping an old topic, but I need help calculating a streamer's mana regen.

I can see he shows off that he has 195.9 mana regen per second with a mana pool of 2832.

Even if I add like 230% mana regen passives it's still nowhere near 195.9. I haven't added clarity, but that might be 30-40 more mana regen per second.

My calculations gone wrong?




((.0175 * Mana) + (Clarity * Inner Force)) * Passive Regen * Gear Regen
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BloodReign wrote:
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Whoaness wrote:
Sorry for bumping an old topic, but I need help calculating a streamer's mana regen.

I can see he shows off that he has 195.9 mana regen per second with a mana pool of 2832.

Even if I add like 230% mana regen passives it's still nowhere near 195.9. I haven't added clarity, but that might be 30-40 more mana regen per second.

My calculations gone wrong?




((.0175 * Mana) + (Clarity * Inner Force)) * Passive Regen * Gear Regen


Ah thanks, I've been calculating Clarity separately before. That's closer to the number I see.

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