Iron Reflexes for CI user?

Hey, I was discussion with my friend. I said that iron reflexes is worthless for CI user since the gear mainly uses energy shield and no armor and evasion ..

He said that through dex and different evasion notes the passiv is still viable

We are currently somewhere in mid game, so we don´t know how it will work out for endgame stuff, but can anyone tell us who is right?


and also if CI uses no armor reduction, how can they reduce physical dmg?
or does a CI user use partyl armor and evasion stuff?


Many thanks

your friend is right

why ?

eva/es gear is amazing after you spec iron reflex

iron reflex solves a big problem ci user have thats low armor

there is a famous build out there using darkscorn and ci resulting in a really good ranger tank on top of that you are really close to vaal pact and ghostreaver

Grace. Nuff said.

evasion/energy shield gear? I don´t know the game as good, but I only have seen armor/evasion (chain) .. but if there is evasion/energy shield it makes more sense to have that passiv.

I started in the shadow tree, so you say iron reflexes is worth the 20 points down?

I want to go for CI after level 50-60 when I have enough gear collected and enough notes, currently I play a live based build, but want to respec.

Grace+Determination+Iron Reflexes = Enough armour with no armor gear on a CI character.

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Hrishi wrote:

Grace+Determination+Iron Reflexes = Enough armour with no armor gear on a CI character.

This.

Add a few armor nodes (like the ones next to unwavering stance) and you've got quite a bit of armor. With a granite you're practically a tank.

Not to mention the ES+Evasion nodes up in the Shadow tree that you should probably grab. Or if you're not that close, the hybrid ES+Armor nodes on the other side of the tree are a pretty good alternative.

To recap:

Grace
Determination
Granite Flasks (Try to get Flasks of Iron Skin or Reflexes, that's even more armor)
Inner Force (optional, but it boosts all of the above by 18%)
Iron Reflexes (More dexterity = More armor)
Hybrid ES+Evasion/ES+Armor nodes

You can be pretty damn tanky on a CI character easily.

Ok, thank you very much for your help :) I want to build a cyclone build, so a little bit tanky is very good

its compatible if you are going to play bows
like the build im working off CI IR dual totem RoA PB witch



there is a famous build out there using darkscorn and ci resulting in a really good ranger tank on top of that you are really close to vaal pact and ghostreaver



im going to try darkscorn if i get one cheap in onslaught

I'm not sure if Darkscorn is worth losing 50% DPS over Lioneye's. A 4L Lioneye's would probably win against a 5-6L Darkscorn.



Can a Darkscorn archer do enough damage to run high level maps?