Power siphon Marauder (Tank, DPS, Can do any map) 23k+ dps, 5600+ hp (non kaoms)

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supertaffer wrote:
grace anger and wrath takes ur hp tho u dont really need anything else for this u could use haste i guess for the attackspeed but not really needed so all in all u dont Loose anything special:)


I just disagree completely. Purity/Determination(especially this)/Vitality are extremely powerful, more so than an extra gem socket. And if you have an alhpa's howl and can buff a 4th, hatred (depending on how much physical damage you do) goes a lot way to making up the dps of any gem you might use in place of blood magic gem.

Clearly you've been pretty successful, but I'd like to see how you manage in 73+ maps with some hard mods, especially solo.

(You don't have to agree with what I say or how I play the game, but from a hardcore perspective, which you stated you made the character to handle, I'd just be extremely wary about using BM keystone over 4 % buffs)
Last edited by Slider13#1798 on Aug 15, 2013, 9:55:13 PM
you think this build would also work with a volls protector? since im just too lazy to use another attack just to stack charges... or will i lose tooo much defenses?
well since this is a tanky setup ur gonna max resists thro gear very easy also since u get 5k+ hp u got plenty of hp regen and as he stated in hes video he has 8k+ armor or atleast thats the goal u dont really need more than that and u dont need BM gems for this as u got the passive so 1 socket saved there u get everything u need from this setup thro gear and passives:) only thing u loose is like 200 ish hp from 3 auras
Hello,

Really like the build idea. Sounds like what I was looking for to do with my freezing pulse witch but never really enjoyed it.

Started rerolling and now lvl 45 mara going very slowly up due to lack of good stuff / levelling skill but going there bit by bit. I aim to switch at lvl 65.

Already found a good 5L armor. Now trying to buy a cheap wand (6-8 gcp) with 1 damage type and a nice crit bonus that will carry me from 65 to 80 before investing in something larger. Aiming also to buy these 1 ex crit gloves, if I find a buyer for my Q20 freezing pulse



Just a few questions OP:

1./ Is the 1% life regen from the templar node really worth a point in it ? Seems to me that you are relying more on life leech than regen so maybe it could be better used

2./ With PS lvl 5 do you really need blood magic ? Given the damage you do, would it not be enough to take the 2% mana leech node in the top right corner and save 5+ skill points and get the benefit of 3 or 4 auras ?

3./ Why the 2 unique axes ? What is their purpose and how do you use them ?


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Slider13 wrote:
I would never use bm keystone endgame. You give up too much without auras. Still looks cool. Congrats


i agree with you. the build can be a little squishy if you're not one shotting everything. i plan to switch out of the BM keystone and go EB.
for slider and jason i got a few questions how would u set this up? u wanna not take blood magic instead u want more auras "hardcore reasons ofc" but how excatly would u do any damage? u need lifeleech and u would need mana leech 2 sockets with no dps at all ind considering a level 5 siphon with just a 5 link costs 132 mana to use (not maxed gems) so u would need atleast 400 mana+ available to fire it at a decent speed even with mana leech no?

Edit: u could also use BM gem instead of mana leech but then the siphon hp cost would be even higher.
Last edited by supertaffer#0377 on Aug 17, 2013, 2:40:41 PM
also consider a 6 link the mana cost goes even higher
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supertaffer wrote:
for slider and jason i got a few questions how would u set this up? u wanna not take blood magic instead u want more auras "hardcore reasons ofc" but how excatly would u do any damage? u need lifeleech and u would need mana leech 2 sockets with no dps at all ind considering a level 5 siphon with just a 5 link costs 132 mana to use (not maxed gems) so u would need atleast 400 mana+ available to fire it at a decent speed even with mana leech no?

Edit: u could also use BM gem instead of mana leech but then the siphon hp cost would be even higher.


since i'm not running BM, life leech really wouldn't be needed except for some harder map mod combos. even then, purity + elemental adaptation would cap your resists at 81, and with a large enough life pool, regen should be sufficient.

for mana, with the EB keystone, hybrid gear, and discipline (possibly clarity as well), there should be a pretty high mana pool and regen to sustain our main skill. i'm thinking a mana leech gem will of course need to be linked.

i've never run an EB build before, so it's really just speculation on my part...
Last edited by pleasejason#0561 on Aug 17, 2013, 4:16:11 PM
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supertaffer wrote:
for slider and jason i got a few questions how would u set this up? u wanna not take blood magic instead u want more auras "hardcore reasons ofc" but how excatly would u do any damage? u need lifeleech and u would need mana leech 2 sockets with no dps at all ind considering a level 5 siphon with just a 5 link costs 132 mana to use (not maxed gems) so u would need atleast 400 mana+ available to fire it at a decent speed even with mana leech no?

Edit: u could also use BM gem instead of mana leech but then the siphon hp cost would be even higher.


The current way it is done is to buff your grace/anger/wrath/disc (whichever you use, I use first and last) off your hp and your 4 %s off your mana (determ/vit/purity/hatred). You then use a BM gem in your 5-6L. since hatred is a 30% more, it scales very well as your weapon does more damage, so a simple answer would be to get a better wand.

The main point I was trying to make though is if you have BM keystone, your 6L is effectively a 7L. If you drop the keystone and use a BM gem, you lose whatever your lowest dps gem was, but you also gain hatred. If your gear is good enough, you may actually gain dps with hatred, and even if you dont gain, you probably won't lose too much anyway (that is it should be about a draw dps-wise). In addition to hatred though you gain determ/vit/purity (maybe use haste instead of vit depending on your comfort level/gear etc), so assuming negligible dps difference, I'd rather have the extra buffs.
and what are the thoughts on volls protector now? :D

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