Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Laellu wrote:

I for one think folks need to pay attention to the other folks saying things like 'the loot timer slows down game-play'. I wish they would lose the timer, as it is a total annoyance and only gives people the impression that they have ownership of loot. I would never ever *steal* an item, I do not care what it is, that someone else in the group wanted. I hate HATE that folks continue this idea that because a person prefers an FFA system, that they must be some kind of a jerk.

After 6 billion threads on the topic, I really hope everyone screaming for options gets them, because then I can just choose FFA and lose the annoying timers. In the mean time, stop trying to paint folks like me as guaranteed asshats.

Thank you for graciously understanding my vent.

As someone who is firmly on the other side of the FFA fence, I salute you. You have made an impassioned post and stated your tastes well.

I think the cause of much of the aggravation comes from the fact that solo PvE and group PvE are so very different. Grouping in PoE is not PvE, it's PvPvE, at least when it comes to loot.

Lots of players, myself included, want a PURE PvE experience. In most online games, you are given a choice between PvP and PvE servers. You choose what you like, and what you get should come as no surprise.

But in PoE, it certainly can be a shock to newer players who join groups to find out that they are not just competing against mobs, but also fellow players for loot.

I respect that different people enjoy different things, I just wish GGG would give us a PvE-only group option.

First time posting in this thread.

I like grouping for dungeons in World of Warcraft. I like knowing my role and performing it well in a group context.

I focus on beating the encounter for the good of the group. It takes my brain a while to switch over to collecting and evaluating loot. So in Path of Exile I think it's safe to assume that on average, other players in a group will be faster than me at that task, and hence fairly often end up with more than a proportionate share of the loot, at my expense.

I like grouping, but not enough to be the patsy who's there to increase loot drops for others. So, I'll enjoy the solo game of PoE for as long as that holds interest, and hope that a loot option is created that makes grouping appealing to me.

I'd suggest having the timer be a configurable option at group-creation. Keep in the differential that helps out the ranged folks, and let the constant be a menu selection: 1, 2, 5, 15, 30 seconds. Then folks with more aggressive and more laid-back looting styles can find each other.

This comunity is dead really.Full of bloodsuckers wow.I never really expected people to understand and come to their senses though.I wrote this over and over.


This is not a challenge, this system does not exalt the game.This is just a ffa loot system where the conditions are not equal(Different computers, different regions, different pings and different frames per second).

There is no equal ground.There will never be.

Make alternative loot systems so that hardcore but honest people can also play this game clear-minded.

Unlike some other people, we dont get excited over a shiny item.We don't like stealing, we are here to play.Stealing is not a challenge.


For once, read my bold writings and get your facts straight.All you have been defending so far is nothing.I see only "THIS IS A CHALLENGE GUSY GO PALY DIABORO 3" comments, nothing else.

There is no point in grouping i only doing for some quests ( read wp`s) who ever invented this system and agreed with it to go live should put finger on his head and think a bit.

I actually get 10% of my loot when grouping because in order to get some loot i need to be in front which is not great idea when playing ranger.
Also game is not optimized well so you get desync`d or get fps drop when you trying to get loot.

I did not read all posts dunno what they are planing to do to fix this ( if they planing to change it) but its a huge problem considering for end game is kinda essential to go maps in groups.

Some of us does not have friends here on PoE to play with so we are kinda forced to do grouping with random peoples.

It sucks for ranged or glass cannons.

This thread is RIDICULOUS. I've never seen so much tears. If we could use these tears to fuel a power source, we will have unlimited power for the next decade. This is how GGG made their game. You don't like it? Don't party with strangers. Problem solved, thank you. Oh wait? You like partying with strangers and getting loot without competition? Then don't play the game, it's not the game for you, there's other games that are more tailored to that loot system that you will enjoy, it's that simple.

Agreed. This thread has become nothing but "I'm disadvantaged, fix it." by 90% of the posters.

I'm done talking about it. If you want to see my suggestion that I think actually is constructive, jump back to pages 530-540 (Ctrl+F, my name) Or, better yet, go to my profile and look at my posts.

Hopefully the devs will ignore it and do something that actually helps.

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oranged wrote:

Oh wait? You like partying with strangers and getting loot without competition? Then don't play the game, it's not the game for you, there's other games that are more tailored to that loot system that you will enjoy, it's that simple.

You do not speak for the developers, you should not tell their customers to leave.

it is not challenge for range users to loot only
me as marauder have found my self in SOOO much troubles trying to collect loot which was right in front of my Nose! that i cannot begin to explain

loot system is fundamentally wrong in its core
and unless revised from core,every attempt to fix the problem will only create it worse

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oranged wrote:

This thread is RIDICULOUS. I've never seen so much tears. If we could use these tears to fuel a power source, we will have unlimited power for the next decade. This is how GGG made their game. You don't like it? Don't party with strangers. Problem solved, thank you. Oh wait? You like partying with strangers and getting loot without competition? Then don't play the game, it's not the game for you, there's other games that are more tailored to that loot system that you will enjoy, it's that simple.

No its not that simple.For end game you need to be in grps.Stop being ignorant!