Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Than perhaps you should find a team.

What a stupid comment, please keep stuff like this to yourself.

What's the point of playing if you're just going to desync and get ninjad?

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MrH wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Than perhaps you should find a team.

What a stupid comment, please keep stuff like this to yourself.

....Does the truth hurt or something?


You expect random people in random games to all follow how you think the game should be played? Well, good luck with that...


Truth is the best way to farm is alone, with friends or like minded players.

Playing in pubs is just fun way to level fast. Its not a good way to farm.


Public games are not a place for uptight whiney players. Its that simple really.

You should expeact nothing and take what you can. Thems the rules.



People seem to want to blame FFA loot for so many issues, when mostly its just them.

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Vooodu wrote:

....Does the truth hurt or something?

No, I am guessing the previous poster said it was dumb because it didn't address the issues I presented at all. Telling people to "find a team" does nothing to answer why public games SHOULD have an arbitrary difficulty while private games do not. FFA people are inconsistent in attempting to point out that public games need the added difficulty because having more people makes the game easier. Private games need more difficulty even more so, yet we hear nothing about them.

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Vooodu wrote:

You expect random people in random games to all follow how you think the game should be played? Well, good luck with that...

Of course not, What I expect is to not have a pvp component shoved down my throat for bad inconsistent reasons.

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Vooodu wrote:

Truth is the best way to farm is alone, with friends or like minded players.

Agreed. Some of us think this is a problem with the game. Public games should be of equal difficulty not harder.

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Vooodu wrote:

Playing in pubs is just fun way to level fast. Its not a good way to farm.

So in this looting game I should not play public games because they are not a good way to get loot? Sounds like a bad idea to me.

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Vooodu wrote:

Public games are not a place for uptight whiney players. Its that simple really.

Apparently they aren't a place for people who like loot either according to you. I don't know why your attempting to insult people for not enjoying public games. People are "uptight" for wanting to earn loot the same way in public games? Ok...

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Vooodu wrote:

People seem to want to blame FFA loot for so many issues, when mostly its just them.

According to what you posted above it sounds like you agree as to the effects of the FFA system in public games. Then you say its the players fault for opting out in order to have a more fun and easier time aquiring loot? I don't see your logic there at all.

If you don't want to make a team, you should not complain about a lack of teamwork from a bunch of random people you've never met or even talked too.

A team must have a common goal, and a common set of rules to obtain that goal.

If you want a team, start one. Otherwise, don't complain.

The public looting system sucks large. My only incentive for joining a public game is to progress an area quickly from time to time. If I were to join a pub game to farm stuff, I wouldn't even bother fighting much. It's chaos. Watching people ninja my loot sucks. The system as it is now is fine if you're partying with friends but come on. If a cutthroat system is intended, make looting corpses available in PvP. If you're grinding an instance, are you not part of a team?

Have a PvP league, with a PvP gear locker that can only be used for PvP. The gear you can use comes from the standard game but once you transfer it to pvp, it stays pvp. You can be looted by people who kill you. Maybe you won't roll into pvp with your best stuff. You might lose it. Or.. maybe you don't care. Maybe you'll loot someone you shouldn't have been able to kill and end up with awesome gear to smash others with.

You wanna roll into your first pvp match with your best gear? Got the balls mr. cutthroat?

My 2 cents.

Ahh.. the pvp looting. Makes me miss mudding a little bit.

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Magus_Coldfire wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Than perhaps you should find a team.

Stupid argument... Dude, if everyone starts to make a team of friends, then there will be no more public parties. You get the idea? I don't think THIS is what GGG wants... Because THEN there is no competation at all between players and all people only trust their friends. Players who don't have friends which play this game, are depended on public prties. So GGG should encourage people to play in public parties and right now the loot mechanic does that not...

Strange, because there's public games going on all the time. A lot of them actually.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

If you don't want to make a team, you should not complain about a lack of teamwork from a bunch of random people you've never met or even talked too.

Did you read what I posted? I never complained about a lack of teamwork at all. Its expected to be like that in a public game. This is about the inconsistent application of a competitive loot system in order to apply extra difficulty.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Strange, because there's public games going on all the time. A lot of them actually.

Sounds like there could be a lot more....

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iamstryker wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

If you don't want to make a team, you should not complain about a lack of teamwork from a bunch of random people you've never met or even talked too.

Did you read what I posted? I never complained about a lack of teamwork at all. Its expected to be like that in a public game. This is about the inconsistent application of a competitive loot system in order to apply extra difficulty.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Strange, because there's public games going on all the time. A lot of them actually.

Sounds like there could be a lot more....

My.post wasn't aimed at you Stryker.

Also, that's what the people who don't like the current system said. Once OB comes, pub parties will.be a ghost town. What was the reality?

More pub games than ever before.