Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Vooodu wrote:

Then stop asking for complex solutions... Dive, hide, etc... These are all complex.


If you want instanced loot, ask for a toggle option at the character select screen.

That way any game you play wether alone or in multiplayer will drop single player loot for you. All the time.....

What? No taht is the least complex way to solve it.

Do you think they can just add a toggle button at character selection and out of nowhere instanced loot will appear??

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Vooodu wrote:

It seems like people want instanced loot but still want to benefit from the same amount of drop rates that occur from party reward drop rates. Which is infact a load of bullshit.

It just sounds like people want the cow and the milk for free..

To imply that the party loot bonus is there because of the "loot competition" is bullshit.

People can already have "the cow and the milk for free"! It's called playing with friends.

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Crizaig wrote:

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tat0010 wrote:

I guess we hope that GGG sees the error of this FFA loot system and change it before it ruins a good game.

The problem is, GGG doesn't think anything is wrong with this loot system. They are pulling a Jay Wilson and telling the players what is fun.

If there was nothing wrong with the loot system, there wouldn't be endless complaints about it all over the internet.

However, I would be willing to bet that if Krapparian or any other major PoE streamer would complain about changing the loot system it would be done ASAP.

There aren't endless complaints. Most of these pages are YOU, iamstryker, Sickness and Co. Making it a much bigger deal than it actually is, with the occasional new player that comes in to say his items were stolen.

I'd rather be focused on trying to play the game rather than focused on trying to get the loot assigned to my character's name and still missing 90% of it. Maybe I just have super slow reaction, but i can't loot anything a majority of the time, i may as well just solo if i want any loot at all.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

There aren't endless complaints. Most of these pages are YOU, iamstryker, Sickness and Co. Making it a much bigger deal than it actually is, with the occasional new player that comes in to say his items were stolen.

Not endless, no... but if you took a poll of all of PoE, I think there would be a majority of players who would select "I am dissatisfied with the looting system".

We'll never know though :).

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Worldbreaker wrote:

There aren't endless complaints. Most of these pages are YOU, iamstryker, Sickness and Co. Making it a much bigger deal than it actually is, with the occasional new player that comes in to say his items were stolen.

Even with repeat posters, there are plenty of individual players complaining about the loot system.

Want to have some fun? Start on page 1 and start writing down the name of each player who doesn't like the loot system as it is (for any reason)

Let me know when you reach 1000 players just from this thread alone.

Just here to add my name to the list as a new poster in this thread.

Tired of missing loot with my name on it because of collision detection issues (a marauder standing on top of it stops me from picking it up) and desync/lag issues.

Also, why scrolls of wisdom have a 7 second timer but a chaos orb has a 2s makes no sense.

Lastly, the only exalted orb I ever saw drop was in a group, had my name on it, and I couldn't loot it due to lag.

tl;dr I'm high level but broke with poo gear from grouping.

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kandidar wrote:

Just here to add my name to the list as a new poster in this thread.

Tired of missing loot with my name on it because of collision detection issues (a marauder standing on top of it stops me from picking it up) and desync/lag issues.

Also, why scrolls of wisdom have a 7 second timer but a chaos orb has a 2s makes no sense.

Lastly, the only exalted orb I ever saw drop was in a group, had my name on it, and I couldn't loot it due to lag.

tl;dr I'm high level but broke with poo gear from grouping.

Just to clarify the loot has your name on it to compensate for lag. The devs intended for the loot to be a FFA system and even if something had your name on it, then intention is honestly "whoever gets it first, wins".

So here we are debating about this FFA system...

I'm not saying because it had my name on it that it is therefore mine. What I am saying is that even with the system in place to compensate for lag, the lag is too much to actually loot. It's a crap shoot whether or not you have a good server connection. I don't like my RNG to have an added RNG of server choice.

Straight FFA loot is a crapshoot based on connection speed. FFA loot with a random time bonus for one person is still a crapshoot, but with the added frustration of still losing even with the bonus. It's all the same. Crapshoot based on lag.

I'm just posting my feedback. I assume this is the right thread for it.

Basically, as a Witch fighting Brutus over and over, I found that even with the timer and it being allocated to me, I couldn't get to rare loot before other players, even if I was alert and paying attention. This happens 9 out of 10 times.

Usually, the loot spawns on the opposite side of Brutus in relation to me, so I'm furthest away (which makes no sense since I'm a ranged character), and the timer runs out as I'm half way to it allowing the marauder who was in the face of Brutus to get the item. Even if I click as it appears.

Perhaps Rares and Uniques should be dropped equi-distance from all characters (taking into account movement speed+distance). But then they'd appear in the same place.

The other problem is that when loot drops, it all drops at once, making it hard to click on what you actually want to click on. Perhaps a tiered drop would be better. For example, as soon as a boss dies, Rares drop, 3 seconds later, Magics drop, 3 seconds later, Whites drop.

That way the whole "cover the screen in text" can be mitigated. This would help with just grinding as well as it would make it easier to keep fighting when lots of loot drops.

Just my 2 cents.

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kandidar wrote:

I'm not saying because it had my name on it that it is therefore mine. What I am saying is that even with the system in place to compensate for lag, the lag is too much to actually loot. It's a crap shoot whether or not you have a good server connection. I don't like my RNG to have an added RNG of server choice.

Straight FFA loot is a crapshoot based on connection speed. FFA loot with a random time bonus for one person is still a crapshoot, but with the added frustration of still losing even with the bonus. It's all the same. Crapshoot based on lag.

You don't have 1000ms lag. Minimum timer is 1 second, 1000ms = 1 second.

If you do, I am sorry but you would be at a disadvantage in most games in that case.