Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

http://www.twitch.tv/destructoid/b/367425090

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iamstryker wrote:

Can someone link the interview please?

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http://www.twitch.tv/destructoid/b/367425090

Starts at 4:30 in.

Edit: Actually they come on about 9 minutes in.

Copied from another thread on the destructoid interview.

The actual comments occur around 44 minutes in.

Specifically on the subject of how loot is divided (not game difficulty)
- They want people to be proud of the items they have because it "took some work to get them."
- They want you to be "oh crap oh crap oh crap" to preserve the "rush" you get when you see an awesome item.

Aaaaaaaaaaand im out of PoE.
If I have to solo to not worry about loot whores, I can even play any single player game instead.

My melee shadow is unplayable due to evasion sucking, my marauder is boring due to hp stacking and m ranger can facetank 95% of all mobs in cruel due to hp stacking, but has enough dps to 3hit most stuff.
That + the loot system it's driving me away.

CB was fun, OP is not.

Hope they fail with the loot system and the customers are running away.

I watched the interview and they did not actually say when or if they would be changing the system. They only spoke about why they implemented the system and what they like about it.

The problems with their reasoning for implementing the system remain the same.

A very large portion of players do not enjoy the "rush" of loot competition.

If your going to claim its a core part of the game then....

A) The game should have been built to be competitive and not built for single player

B) They should back up that its a core part of the game by dismissing the controversy and closing all threads related to it.

Since they announced that they are discussing looting options I expect that they make some kind of change or some kind of other option for players.

If they don't then this is all a waste of time and we are basically being trolled. lol

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iamstryker wrote:

I watched the interview and they did not actually say when or if they would be changing the system. They only spoke about why they implemented the system and what they like about it.

The problems with their reasoning for implementing the system remain the same.

A very large portion of players do not enjoy the "rush" of loot competition.

If your going to claim its a core part of the game then....

A) The game should have been built to be competitive and not built for single player

B) They should back up that its a core part of the game by dismissing the controversy and closing all threads related to it.

Since they announced that they are discussing looting options I expect that they make some kind of change or some kind of other option for players.

If they don't then this is all a waste of time and we are basically being trolled. lol

Just because they are discussing something, does not mean that they WILL do something.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

Since they announced that they are discussing looting options I expect that they make some kind of change or some kind of other option for players.

If they don't then this is all a waste of time and we are basically being trolled. lol

Just because they are discussing something, does not mean that they WILL do something.

I can't believe I'm about to actually agree with SL4Y3R in this thread but... I am and I do.

Awhile back I observed to someone that this is a game "for greifers by greifers" from at least one way of looking at things, haven't seen anything to change my mind and somehow the idea that we who wanted change are being trolled isn't nearly as far-fetched an idea as I would like it to be.

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Omnivore61 wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

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iamstryker wrote:

Since they announced that they are discussing looting options I expect that they make some kind of change or some kind of other option for players.

If they don't then this is all a waste of time and we are basically being trolled. lol

Just because they are discussing something, does not mean that they WILL do something.

I can't believe I'm about to actually agree with SL4Y3R in this thread but... I am and I do.

Awhile back I observed to someone that this is a game "for greifers by greifers" from at least one way of looking at things, haven't seen anything to change my mind and somehow the idea that we who wanted change are being trolled isn't nearly as far-fetched an idea as I would like it to be.

+2

I don't see where a problem is with giving the option for instanced looting. If there are enough people who enjoy FFA, everyone can still play in FFA groups. And if someone dont likes this "rush" and "competition feeling", why not give them the option to choose instanced loot?

Everyone would be happy, no more discussions about unfair loot system etc.

Giving the option would clear one think up:

- If most people like FFA, the instanced option will never be used
- If most people like instanced, the FFA option will never be used
- There are enough people so that both options can coexist (would be the best endresult)

This would actually show if people really hate the current system or if there were just 10-12 people who just QQ in this forum.

Someone analysed the responses to this thread and the result was clear, by far the majority did not like FFA or the timer. My hunch is that Peratos principle rules and the proportion is about 80:20.

GGG have always said they are making the game they want to play, it will be intresting to see how large a part of their player base they are prepared to piss off in the pursuit of this goal.

I think it was Chris that said they wanted "loot tension" which is an apt term. Tension is not a good thing.