Content Update 3.28.0 — Path of Exile: Mirage

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chaD#3533 wrote:

kingsmarch is BROKEN. every casual player is printing mirrors. greedy cartels are running 1 man 6 character maps where they idle their 5 other accounts and pick up the blight encounter gold after their main char clears, so they are operating at 6x efficiency of a dedicated solo farmer. and they have 100s of accounts doing this, printing 1 mirror per day at least.

the whole point of this game is reward according to amount of time and dedication of the player, not giving free mirrors on a consistent basis.

Simply wrong.

Casual players printing mirrors in Kingsmarch - seriously?

Casual players in this game doing campaign for first 3-4x days, and completing atlas for next 3-4 weeks.

Kingmarch at the same time requires you to invest at least 1.500.000 gold/day and buy gear for Disenchant.

Now they also swap crops/ores - and there's no passive currency accumulated while you offline from crops farmers anymore.

1 man 6 chacaters idle 5 other accounts for blight gold strat?

Do you even tryed it yourself?

I run in 2x player with brother - and mobs/bosses are tought as hell, if one of the characters is with weak build/dps.

If you mentioning by casual players = bots, that's another thing.

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chaD#3533 wrote:

kingsmarch is BROKEN. every casual player is printing mirrors. greedy cartels are running 1 man 6 character maps where they idle their 5 other accounts and pick up the blight encounter gold after their main char clears, so they are operating at 6x efficiency of a dedicated solo farmer. and they have 100s of accounts doing this, printing 1 mirror per day at least.

the whole point of this game is reward according to amount of time and dedication of the player, not giving free mirrors on a consistent basis.

why is kingsmarch not REMOVED? remove it and buff the drop rate in a way that rewards dedicated solo farmers, and punish kingsmarch abusers.

look at poe2 mirror price, even before vaal temple. they don't have a broken kingsmarch abused to death by greedy [Removed by Support], and every casual player getting guaranteed mirrors slowly with time.

So, am I correct in understanding that on twin accounts, they level up characters, open the atlas, and then use all those characters in six windows to farm gold? Then what? Do they start spinning the currency through Faust? It's quite a tedious task, to be honest.

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FreshMeat93#0508 wrote:

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chaD#3533 wrote:

kingsmarch is BROKEN. every casual player is printing mirrors. greedy cartels are running 1 man 6 character maps where they idle their 5 other accounts and pick up the blight encounter gold after their main char clears, so they are operating at 6x efficiency of a dedicated solo farmer. and they have 100s of accounts doing this, printing 1 mirror per day at least.

the whole point of this game is reward according to amount of time and dedication of the player, not giving free mirrors on a consistent basis.

Simply wrong.

Casual players printing mirrors in Kingsmarch - seriously?

Casual players in this game doing campaign for first 3-4x days, and completing atlas for next 3-4 weeks.

Kingmarch in the same time requires you to invest at least 1.500.000 gold/day and buy gear for Disenchant.

Now they also swap crops/ores - and there's no passive currency accumulated while you offline from crops farmers anymore.

1 man 6 chacaters idle 5 other accounts for blight gold strat?

Do you even tryed it yourself?

I run in 2x player with brother - and mobs/bosses are tought as hell, if one of the characters is with weak build/dps.

If you mentioning by casual players = bots, that's another thing.

with right gear they can easily have 5 idle accounts in giga juiced blight, ive been in blight gold lobbies where the host kills everything and me and other players pick up the gold. these players are helping the community, unlike those greedy ****s abusing kingsmarch, but it proves its absolutely possible to 1 man 5 idle accounts in a giga juiced blight map.

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BuxoyXomyk#2110 wrote:

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rememberyouwantedthis#7513 wrote:

We are like monkies. Some random guy makes a video and people spam like "ground loot", or in forums Kingsmarch. Loot needs some adjustments, but as Mark said it can bring other problems. As for Kingsmarch they are adjusting also that you need to play in order to get currency and if you don't like it, just skip it.

They are adjusting both problems and yet people cry, the ones who will quit 2 weeks after the league.

There is biger things to focus, like huge meta shakeups, many new builds etc, but they are doing a lot with Octavian I think we are on the right track.

And if you need to spam like monkies "ground loot", perhaps poo2 is the palce for you.

The problem is that all the YouTube hamsters fail to understand two simple truths.
First: profit per hour is not always determined by ground loot, but by the cost of the setup.
Second: the issue is not that ground loot is inherently worthless, but that the market is oversaturated with it, which is why it ends up having no value.

There are still plenty of broken farming strategies in the game — the streamers just don’t know about them yet. My favorite one is when a popular streamer releases a video about a super-duper mega-profitable farming strategy: I buy scarabs, not to run maps, but to resell them at double the price. Easy money, easy life.

That’s why it’s not worth paying attention to such characters — they think they have an advanced understanding of the game, when in reality they are low-tier players.

You and others like you are the reason the market gets saturated, you are basically scalping everything from every build strat, just to have some 5k currency rotting in a remove-only tab in standard...
People who are not playing the game from an economist/manager/trader/etc point of view are affected by this, but yeah congrats on being a high-tier player.

Please reveal quickly all the Reliquarian nodes.
People already guessed most of the unique items anyway (with their shapes used as icons). We need exact numbers and a clean visual aspect.

wat needs to be done, if kingsmarch isnt removed, is a way to prevent one player using 6 accounts in one map to get kingsmarch reward, this is a 6x time efficiency and is simply broken. im not sure this new ore shipment fixes that, they can still idle 5 accounts at portal while main char gets the ore. if they make it so u only get the ore if ur char is alive and within a tight radius of the ore deposit, then this abuse would be fixed, since their idle accounts would die near the ore deposit.

also there needs to be a limit of one kingsmarch per player, so no one player running multiple kingsmarch. this cant be fixed ofc, they'll just use proxies, so there needs to be a mechanism to strongly discourage this.

if its just one player farming ore for one kingsmarch, thats a lot more fair and no longer broken. right now even one kingsmarch per player is broken since they dont need to actively play the game to keep kingsmarch running, they get more than enough gold during normal play, and there's gold farm strategies giving millions of gold per hour, so i agree with the move to ore instead of crops as it forces dedicated ore farming. reward should be based on hours played, not passive crop shipment, there should be NO passive income in this game.

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Thanadiel#0917 wrote:

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Intelligence now inherently grants 1% increased Maximum Energy Shield per 10 Intelligence (previously per 5 Intelligence).

Can we at least get a compensation buff to Whispering Ice at the same time you gut our ES? I get Int stacking tricksters are OP but you're kicking a coughing baby in order to hit a CEO here.

Forbidden Rite of Soul Sacrifice too. Getting double tapped for no reason.

I played the last 4 leagues calmly and enjoyably with CWS, but you ruined CWS with this ridiculous update. I hate what you did, you destroyed the only enjoyment I had. I don't understand your logic in eliminating a build in every league. What kind of absurd motivation is this?

The patch notes look really good overall, great job!

However, I see one potential issue that seems to have emerged as a natural consequence of the changes. Scarab farming appears to be significantly weaker now. There is much less barrel loot from Fortress, which was previously very important for sustaining scarab supply, and Harbinger — the other major source of scarabs is no longer available.

At the moment, the only remaining large-scale farming method seems to be the Allflame mechanic. I’m not sure this alone will be able to supply the entire market (not even looking at SSF that seems realy rough now). It just doesn’t seem realistic that one source can meet overall demand.

This is simply something to keep in mind. I don’t think anyone — neither GGG nor the players — wants the league economy to shift into an “alch and go” state for one or two weeks into the season.

GJ!