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my take on the new system is that there is gonna be same amount of packs pretty much. The packs just gonna contain say 40% less monsters but the distance between packs is gonna be pretty much the same.
Before trying how it feels we can probably run tier 10 map currently (maybe a bit lower).
I am afraid ppl that jump the gun and throw shade on devs based on things they didnt test yet are kind of meh
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Posted byHoptam#0924on Dec 10, 2025, 9:14:49 AM
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Vision 0.2 come back. Empty and boring maps are back. Crafting is also a thing of the past. This will be a disastrous league.
Maps got smaller since 0.2
Essences got much better since 0.2
They added Abbys crafting in 0.3
There are new vaal ways in 0.4
I just dont understand those kind of statements. There is big difference between constructive criticism and throwing empty words
In fairness, OP was constructive. Empty and boring maps are on track to be back with the ceiling being lowered further. Crafting has taken a massive hit with these changes. If you don't see that, then you've probably never reached the point in the game where you're dropping 5d per map and more than 200d per craft - which is completely fine, but they probs do have more experience in the game than you.
I do agree these changes are great for new players, which is what they are probably targeting here. I just do believe there is a world where you can have that, as well as a higher ceiling for those who want to chase that - but they've quite literally removed many of the mechanisms required to do so. Iykyk
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Posted byVoidFletcher#0479on Dec 10, 2025, 9:14:56 AM
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my take on the new system is that there is gonna be same amount of packs pretty much. The packs just gonna contain say 40% less monsters but the distance between packs is gonna be pretty much the same.
Before trying how it feels we can probably run tier 10 map currently (maybe a bit lower).
I am afraid ppl that jump the gun and throw shade on devs based on things they didnt test yet are kind of meh
It's a straight up 16% nerf to already poor loot. Plus removal of core mechanisms required to push more loot.
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Posted byVoidFletcher#0479on Dec 10, 2025, 9:16:08 AM
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I want to be positive here, but I just can't.
40% reduced enemy density but 40% increased quantity does not equal a net-zero change. It is reducing loot by 16%.
Ontop of that, no quant rolls on tablets at all anymore - and the only "buffs" to tablets are buffing the lower side of the rolls.
The removal of towers had such a potential to be a positive move, but tablets were so awful compared to tripple/quad tower setups. Now this.
On the bright side, these can mostly be remedied by just upping some numbers and bringing back the quant tablets (with buffs).
I love POE because there is always an up - but times like this, up looks awfully low.
white mobs drop pretty much nothing.
They will increase the amount of drops from rares by 40% and the amount of rare mobs is the same as before so the loot should go drastically up
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Posted byHoptam#0924on Dec 10, 2025, 9:17:21 AM
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I want to be positive here, but I just can't.
40% reduced enemy density but 40% increased quantity does not equal a net-zero change. It is reducing loot by 16%.
Ontop of that, no quant rolls on tablets at all anymore - and the only "buffs" to tablets are buffing the lower side of the rolls.
The removal of towers had such a potential to be a positive move, but tablets were so awful compared to tripple/quad tower setups. Now this.
On the bright side, these can mostly be remedied by just upping some numbers and bringing back the quant tablets (with buffs).
I love POE because there is always an up - but times like this, up looks awfully low.
white mobs drop pretty much nothing.
They will increase the amount of drops from rares by 40% and the amount of rare mobs is the same as before so the loot should go drastically up
That's a fair point - maybe I'm being paranoid from the trauma of 0.2 :)
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Posted byVoidFletcher#0479on Dec 10, 2025, 9:19:06 AM
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guess we will have to w8 two more days. Maybe I will hate the new ways and drop the game early but having PTSD from two patches ago is whelp!
Being afraid just makes you suffer twice!
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Posted byHoptam#0924on Dec 10, 2025, 9:20:52 AM
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Being afraid just makes you suffer twice!
Stealing this, lol :D
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Posted byVoidFletcher#0479on Dec 10, 2025, 9:22:13 AM
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we need more update for patch!!
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Posted byInterfaceBoy#4817on Dec 10, 2025, 9:31:11 AM
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Please bring back rare monster icons!
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Posted byVoidFletcher#0479on Dec 10, 2025, 9:44:42 AM
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The Cursor Size option has been changed to a slider.
Thats HUGE!!! Maybe we can have that middle ground between large and medium.
Cause large is way to big to use
Wicked-Vortex
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Posted byRaxanto#3290on Dec 10, 2025, 9:46:17 AM
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