instant buyout bots bein WAY faster than site live search make bots OP broken.. mby do somth?

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:
We have been saying this for years. This is the negative side of instant, asynchronous trade. If you ask for this kind of trading, you "have to" be OK with the side effects. Every system has its pros and cons.


yeah weve sat here for 12 years talking to people who want ah AH pointing out that if we get one then the efficiency of bots in an environment where they dont have to deal with a human who has to leave their map, find an item, send trade etc is going to be insane. they will just snap on items within a second and anything they want they will have, there will be absolutely no way to compete with bots in an instant buyout environment.


surely we all knew that was gonna be the price to pay for this? i used to be against an ah for this among other reasons but the afk/not responding plague has got so bad in the last few years that even i have just said fuck it, lets take the hit and just have an AH.


this is how D3 was. bots set a floor, anything listed beneath it is instantly snatched and relisted on the floor line for profit. doesnt matter how small the profit is, its a bot, it will flip for a penny a million times its just free money. it was so controlled in D3 you knew where the bot floor was so if u wanted an item to sell instantly u knew the price point where a bot would lift it in a second.
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You people wanted a trade like this.
Enjoy.


I am, actually. No more annoying trades with other humans.

Too many times where I've made reasonable offers with proper reasoning, got laughed at in my face, had the items re-listed several times while flaunting them in my face over chat with taunts like "Oh, you want this? Why don't you buy it for 50d instead? Sucks to be poor, eh. :P", and then the items rotted in their stash until league end anyway, even after several re-listings.

Turns out, if people whisper you for very, very niche corrupted unique items that are not generally sought after, your ridiculous overpricing will end with you not getting a penny. Who figured.

I'll take bots sniping over this bullshit any day of the week.
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You people wanted a trade like this.
Enjoy.
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I'll take bots sniping over this bullshit any day of the week.

And it's not like there were no bots, not scripting and no sniping before async trade.
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I'll take bots sniping over this bullshit any day of the week.


And that's totally fair - and understandable. I'm enjoying certain parts of it too. I'm just saying that if someone actually thought there would be less boting and sniping, they should rethink their lives.
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Phrazz#3529 wrote:
I'm just saying that if someone actually thought there would be less boting and sniping, they should rethink their lives.


Obviously. Like the guy above you said, we've always had bots. They simply got more sophisticated over time. I've traded currency with bots thousands of times; they typically gave the best rates and would respond instantly.

Allowing instant buyouts obviously opened the door even further, but I'd rather be a step closer to the door out of hell than having to spend my time there for eternity. I've literally rage-quit leagues over the lack of offline trading because I couldn't fully finish my build. I had the currency, I wanted to buy, but I couldn't.

Thank fuck we don't have to deal with that anymore.
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Last edited by BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 on Nov 22, 2025, 4:45:19 PM
I, also, much prefer the new async trade system over the old.

I'm not denying there are bots sniping low priced items, there likely are. But as I'm not competing with them, they haven't affected me in the slightest. The trading I have done has been much more enjoyable, both as a seller and a buyer. The benefits of async trade far outweigh any negatives.
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I've bought a ton of the lowest priced bulk stuff available like ancient wombgifts and maps this league and never noticed someone so fast that I didn't at least get to the trade window to see everything disappearing. Usually I was able to get a fair chunk of what I wanted to buy. What's getting insta-sniped so hard?
It is literally impossible to buy big Valdo maps that are priced appropriately (at least a couple of divines cheaper than the map reward)

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