what exactly are they waiting for, for a public release?
" that would be insane that could easily take all of 2026 and possibly longer no way anyone wont be even more pissed waiting that long if thats even remotely true im writting off poe2 now and just pretending it never existed Last edited by GrandmasterPin#2188 on Sep 14, 2025, 9:03:23 PM
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" The irony here being that if you were remotely capable of the self discipline necessary to "pretend it never existed" then you could just do that now and go do something else with your time until 1.0 comes out and whether that's tomorrow or in 2029 it wouldn't make any difference to you whatsoever because literally why would it? "If I can't have it when I want it then I don't want it at all" is just an absolutely wild take. And, like, for real if that's your mindset I would just go now because at the rate we're going I would absolutely not be surprised in the least if Early Access lasts throughout 2026 and into 2027. Last edited by Kerchunk#7797 on Sep 14, 2025, 10:19:45 PM
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" Actually you're looking at like 4-5 years for all classes/ascendancies at the current rate. I do believe they said something like all they need to release is swords and druid. They have some kind of threshold they have to meet. They don't require all ascendancies and classes/weapons to be out to launch the game. |
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" My opinion is that all this should of been done before early access started, without endgame, and they are way behind. The game was teased for a long time, and my personal opinion is they have not been upfront about how progressed they were with the development. That's in the past, but the game is only as ready now, as it is now. Fact is, none of this is currently complete. So it either needs to be completed, or launched before it is complete. I would prefer if they don't rush it and priorities getting to the same quality they are currently producing. I also would of prefered, if they were very clear about how ready the game was going to be at early access, and how long early access was likely to run for. ie, 3months, versus years. They have been bad with their keeping to their timelines, but that is not a reason to give no indication of the readiness of the game. At early access launch, I heard no mention of how unfished the game was and how long early access was likely to be. I have still not heard, how likely early access is likely to be running from this point to full launch. Though I stopped listening for updates some time ago. You are entitled to your opinion, I don't actually disagree with you, I just think there is a reality and they either need to complete it before 1.0 or release the game before it is done, with the "coming soon" features all over it. Out of all this list, I would say, the most essential are, campaign finished, followed be items. Then characters, then skills. All very important though. Currently, I start a warrior, and I am basically locked in to using a mace. That is not ready for launch. On the positive side, what they have made is very good. Incomplete, but very good. I did not play from the start of early access, one of the reasons, because I saw it was miles from ready, so I do not know how much progress they have made in the last year. It could be that they are not that far from having the above completed. If you are playing act2/3 within the current restricted build parameters, the game feels ready for launch. The base is there, they just have not completed that across the whole range of intended content. " This is also important, as it was promised. Since I don't use MTX, console, etc, beyond map tabs, not for me, but it is a big part of the game. If there are technical limitation, and problems with third parties, then it is something they need to overcome. There is a cost to verbalizing marketing, people expect when you say something is going to happen, that it is going to be included. Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Sep 14, 2025, 10:57:45 PM
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" I mean, to be clear they are "way behind" on your personal arbitrary schedule that you just made up which is an assessment I'm sure you understand isn't relevant to anyone who isn't you. The entire point of Early Access was to use player behavior and data to inform the design of classes and abilities. Designing all of the classes (and abilities) up front and releasing them without an endgame to evaluate against kind of defeats the stated purpose no? Last edited by Kerchunk#7797 on Sep 14, 2025, 10:53:04 PM
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i dont think they are in a hurry for a full release. its more profitable like this, having people pay to play the game while its EA
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" That's right, it is. It's based on years and years of them teasing the game. It is not relevant to how ready the game is now. Just like MTX compatibility promises for POE1 players who supported the games development are not important for an incoming new player base that just want to play the game. If you think this is an isolated opinion, you have not read the forum opinion of a large part of the existing player base over the past years. " That's true. They are still selling early access. I do not personally think they are drawing it out for this reason, but I tend to agree they are not in a hurry. As the gentleman in this thread has pointed out, delaying start can also turn some players off, who loose interest. The game is currently amazing visually, and bringing in a lot of new aspects. The longer the launch is delayed, those aspects begin to date, and may not be as amazing as they are right now, or even a year ago. They are intending on this being another long term experience, like POE1 has been for over a decade, so getting it right is more important than getting it early. However, the game being fully launched in 2022 would not be the same as having it fully launched in 2027. Systems date, technologies improve, competitors evolve, industries change, players taste, opinions and loyalties move. Luckily for GGG, they have been so far ahead of any competitors in what they have been able to create, that they haven't needed to look over their shoulder. That does not mean this game has the same impact as if it were released back when they changed the game development to being stand alone in 2023. I thought the free trial was a good indication that they are getting closer to full release. It did encourage me to purchase the early access, and I think the game is great, just not complete. I'm now interacting with the end game, which is fun to have available, but I would much prefer if they were not already running season and end game, and just had a complete foundation for the game that they could start building seasons on top of. " While I do not agree with all of this list, something I would like to add is Support. The help forum for the game over the past year has been an absolutely atrocious look for the company. It may be that they have been dealing with some nefarious parties with in that, but you can not have a wall of requests from people who have paid money to purchase the game, in any form, not getting access to it and waiting months for a reply from support. Not even a resolution, just no reply to emailing support at all, for not having access to the thing the have purchased. It looks as though they are finally getting on top of that, but how that can happen baffles me. It should not of happened. Potential players who see that is how customers are being treated are not enticed to interact with that company. It had been a great strength of the company for a long time. In terms of game performance and stability, I think it is fine from my experience. I've so far only encountered one short 5 minute window of disconnects in the past 3 weeks. Not even certain it was on their end. The game in some ways seems to be running better than POE1. They do have stability issues across both games, and I have not been in a hotspot for those concerns, but I do not think this is holding the game back from being launched. It is certainly something they need to be concerned about, I just don't think, from what I have encountered, that the Early access hasn't been encountering anything beyond what POE1 has had through it's existence. I'm not trying to play down the experience of players that are encountering this, if I was, it would probably be on the top of my list. Just that from what I have encountered, the performance was not a concern. Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Sep 15, 2025, 12:17:52 AM
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Whenever Poe1 was delayed the way it was, I got the idea from GGG that the game (poe2) wasn't that far off from being finished. I had the impression we would have 1 EA (beta) "League" Then 1.0 would launch. I didn't realize we were still 5-6 years from having all the content. Assuming druid is the only class they plan on launching in .4 then its going to be a loooooong time before we get 1.0.
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Because it's not ready.
Several builds are still bugged. Act V and VI are still lacking. What, half the classes aren't present yet? Nevermind ascendancies. Melee is in dire need of content. Abyss added a number of crafting options that were very welcome to the base economy. Before this league, there was actually a real crafting in the game (despite what people said), but not a lot of "tricks", and using real crafting options were prohibitively expensive to most players due to scarcity of omens. I think the crafting is ready now, but it's still really buggy and a lot of content still isn't in the game yet. |
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" I completely agree, and I believe it was intentional, largely for marketing reasons. Even before this, from the announcement in 2019, to the delaying of release by changing to a stand alone project. It was never specifically said, but the readiness throughout all the development was implied to be more advanced than it ever was. I think the developers themselves were unaware how far it was from being ready. Don't market it as being a ready game, if it is a work in progress. Given that this thread even exists, almost a year on from the delayed early access release date, players clearly still have no understanding of when a timeframe for 1.0 will be. Again, it is going to be a great game and going through all this to get there, doesn't change that. I have specifically left out all of this discussion from my early access feedback, because it does not help with where they are at with the developing the game currently. Though it does not magically disappear, that this has happened. It takes a toll on the community, impacts POE1 and has eroded high levels of trust and goodwill that the company had cultivated over a long time of providing very high standards. |
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