Aylardex catalyst not scaling

Aylardex 1% of Damage is taken from Mana before Life per Power Charge
is not scaled by life catalysts, while it has correct life/mana tag, also it is states that values should be 20% increased:




not sure is it only visual bug, or 'Damage is taken from Mana before Life' cant have decimal values, if possible please clarify
Last bumped on Jul 26, 2025, 11:31:23 AM
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Shidzy#7790 wrote:
'Damage is taken from Mana before Life' cant have decimal values

It's probably this
Still thats a bug or something that not clear why it is doesnt work,
should have Unscalable value like here:


or should work, which is better
It works and scales, but 20% quality is not enough to increase the value. This is different from Unscalable mods.
"It works and scales" - any proof for this?
I mean it scales but it rounds to 1% so there is no effect from 20% quality.
i understand. but still - there is no proof that it even can scale as we cant test it anywhere in game
You can find similar ones on trade to ensure they're scalable
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/r4JPmbMuQ
@Mona, I think the discussion is about the 0.2 per charge that is either missing or rounded down. That chest is 17.25, but the game only displays 17, so there's no clear indicator if the 0.25 was rounded or still works without testing. Experience says rounded down, but an odd case for the amulet if it rounds before or after the power charges.

@OP, the only test I can think of without any proof it even works is to disable your mana regen and do self damage with an exact amount on a skill with no mana cost. 100 flat damage (example), take 10% with non-catalyst amulet and 10 PC, lose 10 mana. Same test with catalyst amulet and see if you lose 10 mana or 12 mana. 12 mana, it works and the 0.2 number is not displayed. 10 mana, it rounds down. If you want to go further, can test if 5 charges does 5 or 6. My brain just sizzled on the reason now, but I had one.

My guess is it doesn't work because rounded down before, and quality scaling should be removed from that line to avoid confusion as there's no way to reach 100% quality for 2%, yet anyways. But maybe it's post charges and there's breakpoints every 5 or 10 charges. Either way, best of luck on that test if you want to proceed further.
yes, checked this
self damaging with heartbound loop catalysed to 400 dmg:
10 power charges + aylardex = -40 mana
11 power charges + aylardex = -44 mana
10 power charges + aylardex +20% mana catalyst = -40 mana
so 20% mana catalyst completely dont work on aylardex and doesnt add up

and i agree that either quality scaling should be removed from that line to avoid confusion
or allow for Damage is taken from Mana before Life to be decimal so it will work
Last edited by Shidzy#7790 on Jul 22, 2025, 3:10:36 PM

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