Quite a bit of reasons why XP Death Penalty has got to go

+1 trillion

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Skollvaldr#5851 wrote:

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Innuendos#5095 wrote:

i mean. xp loss isnt an issue to the vast majority of players. cuz like i said, once they hit a certain point in the passive tree, where they have everything need to for their build to be done.... they dont NEED xp anymore. and that is generally like i said, around lv 90-92.

is it a bad thing? thats up to interpretation. i dont personally gaf. and most people dont either.

but like i said. if there were a valid reason, like obtaining something like a skin or something... more people would care and try.

IMOOOOOO. the only people who gaf about xp penalty... are ODC ADHD people who go berserk over not being able to hit max level.

and thats a personal problem.
not a design problem.

100% agree!

But those OCD ADHD people complain a lot in this forum. There's at least one new thread about EXP loss daily. They simply can't understand that their rage is self-induced.

I understand the point you're making—technically speaking, reaching level 100 isn't "necessary." But if we follow this logic, practically everything else in the game isn't necessary either. Let's consider this:

* Completing challenging end-game bosses isn't necessary.
* Farming perfect gear isn't necessary.
* Collecting cosmetics isn't necessary.
* Completing league achievements isn't necessary.
* Engaging in complex crafting systems isn't necessary.
* Even trading or socializing with other players isn't necessary.
* Ultimately, playing the game itself isn't necessary.

Games exist fundamentally for enjoyment and personal satisfaction. Different players have different ways of enjoying Path of Exile 2. Some people take pride in achieving level 100 as a meaningful personal milestone, much like others find fulfillment in farming rare gear or completing challenging content. Dismissing the XP penalty concerns as mere "OCD" or "ADHD" trivializes genuine player feedback and ignores the diverse ways people engage with and enjoy the game.

Constructive feedback, even about issues that don't personally affect every player, is vital. It helps shape a game that can accommodate and respect multiple playstyles and personal goals, ultimately enriching the experience for everyone.


Who the hell are you to call everyone ADHD and OCD??? Basement nerd?

This thing about losing experience (compared to the slowness with which is done, i at lv97 do 1% every 3-4 full mod high deli maps with 150% exp gain in groups of 5 players) is so frustrating that many players, including me, unistall the game and stop playing. Incredible how developers make such unfortunate gameplay choices that go against their own interests. Reaching lv100 in a goal, after a while the only one you have left in the endgame, and it is impossible to archive unless you completely dedicate your life to the game.Gaming should be fun and rewarding, not bring out the worst in you.

see.. this is the problem with complaining about XP penalty.

they just cannot admit that it doesnt matter if they hit it or not. (lv 100)

lv 100, is a capstone goal. it is a cherry ontop of a sundae. it is not necessary at all. it is not manditory to do it whatsoever.

it is something reserved for the very few players who have the skill, and build, and time, and dedication, and knowledge... to achieve. and is completely optional.

it is a personal problem. if you have some completionist thought process, that you are ENTITLED.... to be able to hit max level.

you are not... entitled... to be able to hit max level.
the game , and previous game, are designed in this fashion. on purpose.

if your goal is to hit lv 100, you have 4 months to do so. (on average of the lifespan of both games leagues)

if you cannot do so by the time they reset the ladders/league, that is a personal problem. and maybe. just maybe. you dont have the skill. or build. or time. or dedication. or knowledge. to achieve said goal.

lv 100 is literally this games carrot on the stick.

and your asking for them to take it away from you because you are unable to bite the carrot that others can.

want to hit lv 100?

you have TWO MORE MONTHS TO DO SO.

instead of crying here. get to killing monsters.

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Innuendos#5095 wrote:

see.. this is the problem with complaining about XP penalty.

they just cannot admit that it doesnt matter if they hit it or not. (lv 100)

lv 100, is a capstone goal. it is a cherry ontop of a sundae. it is not necessary at all. it is not manditory to do it whatsoever.

it is something reserved for the very few players who have the skill, and build, and time, and dedication, and knowledge... to achieve. and is completely optional.

it is a personal problem. if you have some completionist thought process, that you are ENTITLED.... to be able to hit max level.

you are not... entitled... to be able to hit max level.
the game , and previous game, are designed in this fashion. on purpose.

if your goal is to hit lv 100, you have 4 months to do so. (on average of the lifespan of both games leagues)

if you cannot do so by the time they reset the ladders/league, that is a personal problem. and maybe. just maybe. you dont have the skill. or build. or time. or dedication. or knowledge. to achieve said goal.

lv 100 is literally this games carrot on the stick.

and your asking for them to take it away from you because you are unable to bite the carrot that others can.

want to hit lv 100?

you have TWO MORE MONTHS TO DO SO.

instead of crying here. get to killing monsters.

And you're entirely missing the point. Nobody is talking about lvl100. Nobody cares about that, or the extra skill points. People just don't like hours of their progress getting deleted when they die. It's that simple.

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Skollvaldr#5851 wrote:

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vexorian#9572 wrote:

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Skollvaldr#5851 wrote:

No. EXP loss is good for the game and doing what it's supposed to do.

What makes it good for the game? Is there no other way to do what it's doing?

No, there is no other way to prevent people from mindlessly grinding their way to lvl 100 without effort and thereby destroying the ladder aspect of the game.

They do it anyway, it prevents nothing.

Always the same tired arguments for it that get defeated, too.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And you're entirely missing the point. Nobody is talking about lvl100. Nobody cares about that, or the extra skill points. People just don't like hours of their progress getting deleted when they die. It's that simple.

if the point of complaining about the xp penalty IS NOT TO HIT lv100.

dare i ask.

what would be the point of complaining about the xp penalty?

cuz to me... there would only be one single point to complain about the xp penalty. which would be - >>>> the penalty from them die'n so much, stops them from hitting max level.

if i am missing some magical reasoning. please. let us know.

cuz if you dont give a shit. about max level. WHY WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT LOSING ANY PROGRESS

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

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Innuendos#5095 wrote:

see.. this is the problem with complaining about XP penalty.

they just cannot admit that it doesnt matter if they hit it or not. (lv 100)

lv 100, is a capstone goal. it is a cherry ontop of a sundae. it is not necessary at all. it is not manditory to do it whatsoever.

it is something reserved for the very few players who have the skill, and build, and time, and dedication, and knowledge... to achieve. and is completely optional.

it is a personal problem. if you have some completionist thought process, that you are ENTITLED.... to be able to hit max level.

you are not... entitled... to be able to hit max level.
the game , and previous game, are designed in this fashion. on purpose.

if your goal is to hit lv 100, you have 4 months to do so. (on average of the lifespan of both games leagues)

if you cannot do so by the time they reset the ladders/league, that is a personal problem. and maybe. just maybe. you dont have the skill. or build. or time. or dedication. or knowledge. to achieve said goal.

lv 100 is literally this games carrot on the stick.

and your asking for them to take it away from you because you are unable to bite the carrot that others can.

want to hit lv 100?

you have TWO MORE MONTHS TO DO SO.

instead of crying here. get to killing monsters.

And you're entirely missing the point. Nobody is talking about lvl100. Nobody cares about that, or the extra skill points. People just don't like hours of their progress getting deleted when they die. It's that simple.

I care about the skill points, but you are still 100% correct, it's mainly about my progression being deleted with no way to recover it. At lower levels it's tolerable, at 90+ it's just flat out not fun.

If XP was recoverable near where you die, then almost no one would be complaining. Death would still mean something but instead of pure frustration it would be an inconvenience that you still want to avoid but without the consequence of forcing overly cautious playstyles

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Innuendos#5095 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And you're entirely missing the point. Nobody is talking about lvl100. Nobody cares about that, or the extra skill points. People just don't like hours of their progress getting deleted when they die. It's that simple.

if the point of complaining about the xp penalty IS NOT TO HIT lv100.

dare i ask.

what would be the point of complaining about the xp penalty?

cuz to me... there would only be one single point to complain about the xp penalty. which would be - >>>> the penalty from them die'n so much, stops them from hitting max level.

if i am missing some magical reasoning. please. let us know.

cuz if you dont give a shit. about max level. WHY WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT LOSING ANY PROGRESS

Because its still progress that the game is taking away. Nothing more to it. Stop trying to make the reason something else and gaslight everyone who is giving their feedback about how exp loss needs to go. We all know why its bad, and why it must change. The majority has already spoken on many threads, the rest is up to GGG.

They caved and gave us more than 1 portal per map, same will happen with exp. Even if its the penalty only starting at lvl90+ or something.

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qQbonmjtAZ#7824 wrote:

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I care about the skill points

so...

you do...

care about max level

k.