Kalguur has stopped me from playing new leagues and private leagues
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The settlement basically creates a barrier to entry to going back to Path of Exile.
It isn't that it is time-gated (getting to max level isn't too bad) or too grindy, but that so much of the game is balanced around these idiots. Waiting on shipments Waiting on Crops Waiting on Smelting Waiting on Disenchanting Waiting on Map Runners only to get nothing of value. Having to look up the shipment rewards cheat sheet to know what my random assortment of smelted metals and pointless food is going to give me. Storing gear for Recombination Missing every good recombination Never Seeing a freaking power rune. Screw ultra rare random boss drops. Seriously. I just have a lot of negative experiences with this mechanic and everything about it. From mangling loot tables to create gold, to gold being too scarce, or too plentiful. Everything was just off. Amateurish at best. Settlers is going to be absolute hell when there won't be ore in every map. Sometimes you hit, sometimes you miss. Hey you missed, pal. Last edited by roundishcap#0649 on May 18, 2025, 2:58:28 PM Last bumped on May 30, 2025, 11:17:43 PM
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Or, you can ignore it like any mechanic you don't care to play
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" I'll give you some help - If you want the good runes, tattoos and mirror shards, you have to save up and send a maxed out shipment. If you send out small loads you'll be very unlikely to get a good solid payout. Delayed gratification is the name of the game. 1: Use your gold to reroll the best quality workers and focus on upgrades. Make that your priority. You will want to max your farm, disenchanters and sailors. 2: Use the premium workers option, and try to avoid Mapping or Disenchanting as secondary careers on any of your farmers. This saves you a lot of gold in upkeep. 3: Don't bother with the intermediate levels and sending out ships with small amounts in them. That just risks your sailors and as you've discovered, you won't see the high tier rewards. 4: The option that gives you equal gold to ore mined is a lifesavers. 5: Run 1 of each crop type and 2 Blue Zahthiem. Toss any trash unique with a value over 8k dust on your disenchanters. (You can find a lot of 1-10c uniques with a 15-25k dust value and really juice this if you wish). 6: Let it run and build up farm produce and dust until you get enough to max out a a ship with max level sailors. Use dust to amp the value. DO NOT SEND ORES. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT. Ores get you items - and while the gear is very good - lots of t-1 and t-2 items, it eats into your raw currency and rune/tattoo payout. Sending ore is best saved to league start since the gear they bring back will be very helpful and more valuable on the player market. 7: If you want power runes, send the maxed out ship to a Kalguran port, if you want the better tatoos, send it to a Karui port. I have send out about 30 maxed out ships, and I have NEVER failed to get at least one mirror shirt and power runes/high tattoos. Not once. My best is 5 mirror shards, worse was 1 mirror shard. There was also a large pile of divine orbs, sacred orbs and exalts. If you send small boats, you loose valuable sailors to attrition and you don't get much back. ___________________________ Addendum: The mappers are expensive to run and get killed a lot. Their value is they will pull in lots of "league mechanic" items like breach splinters, oils, legion splinters, catalysts, and influenced items. So let's say you HATE the Trialmaster and Blight, and have them all but blocked on your atlas, the mappers will provide a steady supply of Oils and Catalysts so you don't have to buy them. This is nice, but you get better returns on sending out big ships, which you can then just bulk buy what you want - however, I enjoy the variety, and in a solo-self-found situation, the mappers could be a real life-saver. Last edited by Sabranic_SilverDeth#2793 on May 18, 2025, 5:07:24 PM
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" This. I gave up on Kalguur content beyond challenge hunting ages ago, because the content is simply unrewarding. While I did get lucky and get a single mirror shard, it was only the one time and the rest of my earnings have been simply not worth the effort. This is especially true for map runners which have a non-zero percent chance of getting killed. Spending tons of time and gold to find replacements suck and I'm tired of it. So I stopped. It felt better that way, not needing to micromanage my Settlers jobs while doing my usual thing in maps. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish. |
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" Other mechanics don't screw the entire loot pool. Don't assume I am doing it wrong. I have had multiple million shipments just give me like 1 or 2 div max. Your advice is spend a stupid amount of time for a paltry chance of getting the actual goid reward. Their are like 4 good items to get, and you have a sub 1% of pulling it. This mechanic sucks, I interact with it as little as possible. It only will get worse next league. GGG needs to Mahe the floor higher and the ceiling lower on rewards because most of the time you get absolutely nothing. |
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" You didn't max the shipments with a level 10 crew and keep it to dust and produce only. I know this for a fact, because of what you're posting. There are optimal ways to engage with every mechanic, I told you how to maximize this one. If you choose not to, that's on you. Free world. Do you. But if you play in a less than meta way, you'll get less than meta results. Optimizing for content is typical for PoE. I would not expect my fragile, ES hipster-build necromancer to be good in heists. Why would you expect a sub-standard town and resource management strategy to pay out well? If I want my necromancer to be good in a contract, I have to rebuild her with proper tanky gear so she can take a few hits and do more damage. If you want your town to pay out, you have to optimize it every bit as much. Play to the mechanic, or accept that you won't get a lot out of it. But saying it's "not good" when you're far far from optimized is being unreasonable. It would be like me saying that "Heists don't pay out well because my energy shield necromancer dies every other contract." That's not a true statement. Heists in this example, don't pay out well for ME, because I am expecting unreasonable things, and I am trying to do them my way, instead of optimizing for the content. I'm trying to help, what I am telling you is the truth. You can better optimize your play or be upset that your "hipster-economy-management-strat" works as well as my "hipster-heist-es-necromancer" would. Your choice. Last edited by Sabranic_SilverDeth#2793 on May 19, 2025, 6:19:08 AM
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" I don't think he's getting at the "sub-optimal" results being the problem. The problem is the WAITING. I'm sure he knows that he can wait to send a 10 million + shipment of only crops and dust.............but there-in lies the problem. The fact that "optimal" in this case is simply to sit there and do nothing for a LONG time. He wrote this in the OP, and I agree. Yes...he also alluded to getting "nothing of value", but that sort of ties into the inactivity of the mechanic too. When you actively "play" the game, you are getting something of value the entire time (aka....the game itself). For Settlers....the "optimal way" of engaging with the mechanic is to....not engage with the mechanic. For as long as possible. Even what you wrote, to not send ores, is ridiculous. So now its not just "don't interact", but its also "oh, and ignore half the items associated with it" Everyone and their mother knows the strategy of "send a huge shipment of crops and dust" by now....especially the OP who is a veteran player. If I'm wrong and the OP genuinely never figured out the optimal strategy and is ONLY griping about getting garbage from shipments....I'll eat my hat. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on May 19, 2025, 1:26:40 PM
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Settlers was fun...until it became work.
I came back to it to run some build concepts but skipped the league content until... I decided to try another build in hardcore to get some achievements from that group just for the hell of it, but I'm having to run low-level shipments to get any kind of decent gear, well useable, I wouldn't call it decent, because not unexpectedly, there's no one trading in hardcore Settlers (run-on or effective use of commas - get out your style manual). |
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imagine some people want this nonsense in base game...
also claim settler to be the peak poe... |
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" Well....to be fair they claim the BASE game during Settlers is peak PoE: not the league itself. But even that is stretching the truth to the point of breaking. The game was better in 3.13, it was better in 3.8, it was better in 3.0, etc. Problem is GGG releases some completely busted thing, which deals lasting damage that they then need to "fix", which when they finally do it a while later people have mostly forgotten the state of the game BEFORE GGG broke it. I know that GGG has to try things in order to keep the interest up, and sometimes those things come with big risk. But there were MANY decisions made over the years that were just plain bad. And the "fixes" generally suck for a LONG time. So when they finally don't suck, people yell "This is the best ever!". Starting anew....with PoE 2
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