Feels like dark souls in endgame. I hate dark souls.

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DEvil27#6183 wrote:

About difficulty, this game is not hard, it is far too unbalanced and it is hard for new players to know how to build chars correctly. There is few guide for beginners to follow.

On the other hand, if you know what you doing, this game is easy. And I'm not even talking about spears and LS.

*P.S.: it is funny how people see a roll dodging mechanic and they automatically think about Dark Souls LOL

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Direfell#7544 wrote:

But the npcs fully explain what they mean and will even repeat it for the player.

Thats not dark souls.

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Rakie1337#5746 wrote:

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MyzPoE#4175 wrote:

I don't believe anyone who claims that PoE2 feels like Dark Souls has ever played more than a second of Dark Souls.

POE 2 is so easy it's crazy, none of these guys have played POE 1 or any souls games.

The problem with POE 2 is it has zero difficulty. The Fights are meh, the pinnacle bosses really suck from a multitude of angles...

These kids couldn't do uber sirus or maven lol, even with 6 portals.

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

PoE 1 is not hard but its fun,PoE 2 on the other hand is garbage.Every single thing taken from PoE1 that was added to PoE2 is trash,so is the endgame and maps.Theres no crafting,whole atlas passive tree is garbage,to many restrictions and in the end game is just not fun.

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Rakie1337#5746 wrote:

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

PoE 1 is not hard but its fun,PoE 2 on the other hand is garbage.Every single thing taken from PoE1 that was added to PoE2 is trash,so is the endgame and maps.Theres no crafting,whole atlas passive tree is garbage,to many restrictions and in the end game is just not fun.

Agreed. I don't think POE 1 is hard, but being a veteran POE player, POE 2 is crazy easy.

POE 2 feels soulless and devoid of reason/direction.

POE 2 is going in a ton of random directions, which are sometimes at odds with their supposed goals/design intent.

Personally I think the biggest failing and worst part is the mapping system -- by miles. The tower system is just flat out bad. They turned sextants into work, now you can't just roll sextants, you have to find them in groups or you're just not going to get drops, ever.

Hard coding RNG into every aspect of the game is pretty shitty, unfun, unfair, and far too limiting.


poe 1 has alot more ways to scale up the difficulty and reward. . not to say its hard. .. but theres alot higher celling than poe 2. both how you push your build and the monsters. . so i do think when you max out stuff in poe 1 its like many times harder than poe 2. the problem with poe 2 isnt that its "hard" its that its not fun
Limiting is what GGG wants. They don't want us farming level 82 maps, they don't want us having great gear, they don't want items being common.. They just want to limit us so badly that there is no enjoyment left

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

poe 1 has alot more ways to scale up the difficulty and reward. . not to say its hard. .. but theres alot higher celling than poe 2. both how you push your build and the monsters. . so i do think when you max out stuff in poe 1 its like many times harder than poe 2. the problem with poe 2 isnt that its "hard" its that its not fun
Limiting is what GGG wants. They don't want us farming level 82 maps, they don't want us having great gear, they don't want items being common.. They just want to limit us so badly that there is no enjoyment left

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Rakie1337#5746 wrote:

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NoyAvargel#6918 wrote:

poe 1 has alot more ways to scale up the difficulty and reward. . not to say its hard. .. but theres alot higher celling than poe 2. both how you push your build and the monsters. . so i do think when you max out stuff in poe 1 its like many times harder than poe 2. the problem with poe 2 isnt that its "hard" its that its not fun
Limiting is what GGG wants. They don't want us farming level 82 maps, they don't want us having great gear, they don't want items being common.. They just want to limit us so badly that there is no enjoyment left

Yes you can't juice in POE 2 like POE 1, not even close.


Well for me, I think a big problem is that POE 2 isn't hard -- it's crazy easy. Which doesn't inspire me to play more, it just makes me feel like GGG wasted 5 years for nothing. In addition, it's incredibly un-fun.

Now when us "POE 1 doomers" wanted "the same exact game" because we didn't like the direction POE 2 was going, POE 2 players (D4 players) just screamed "YOU JUST WANT AN EASY GAME"... No.

POE 2 is the easy game. It's slower at first, but it's fundamentally just watered down POE 1, with worse rewards.


right so tbh.. . my main problem with poe 2 is neither that its hard or that its easy... its simply that its not fun.. most system there are simply unenjoyable for me. . infact ill argue that poe 2 is easy ... becuse i can 1 shoot basically all bosses and stand afk after 1-2 weeks .. but its just soooo clunky so unfun.. theres nothing exciting to do the maps are huge the gameplay is slow and clunky. . monsters dont drop loot what kind of ARPG is this? the way you bring loot to maps with 3 overlapping towers and specific 9 tablets and rarity on map.. is so toxic.. i swear i side from the visual theres nothing i like about poe 2 .. GGG really seem to have lost their way between whats "hard" and what is "tedious" as you said or clunky.. and they clearly have chosen to go the tedious way

We still want it harder, but GGG only seems to think tedious = hard.

To them, limiting us and our rewards is the only way to make the game challenging.

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Rakie1337#5746 wrote:

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

PoE 1 is not hard but its fun,PoE 2 on the other hand is garbage.Every single thing taken from PoE1 that was added to PoE2 is trash,so is the endgame and maps.Theres no crafting,whole atlas passive tree is garbage,to many restrictions and in the end game is just not fun.

Agreed. I don't think POE 1 is hard, but being a veteran POE player, POE 2 is crazy easy.

POE 2 feels soulless and devoid of reason/direction.

POE 2 is going in a ton of random directions, which are sometimes at odds with their supposed goals/design intent.

Personally I think the biggest failing and worst part is the mapping system -- by miles. The tower system is just flat out bad. They turned sextants into work, now you can't just roll sextants, you have to find them in groups or you're just not going to get drops, ever.

Hard coding RNG into every aspect of the game is pretty shitty, unfun, unfair, and far too limiting.

Limiting is what GGG wants. They don't want us farming level 82 maps, they don't want us having great gear, they don't want items being common.. They just want to limit us so badly that there is no enjoyment left

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VenokDracul#4939 wrote:

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Rakie1337#5746 wrote:

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Zecalo#5575 wrote:

PoE 1 is not hard but its fun,PoE 2 on the other hand is garbage.Every single thing taken from PoE1 that was added to PoE2 is trash,so is the endgame and maps.Theres no crafting,whole atlas passive tree is garbage,to many restrictions and in the end game is just not fun.

Agreed. I don't think POE 1 is hard, but being a veteran POE player, POE 2 is crazy easy.

POE 2 feels soulless and devoid of reason/direction.

POE 2 is going in a ton of random directions, which are sometimes at odds with their supposed goals/design intent.

Personally I think the biggest failing and worst part is the mapping system -- by miles. The tower system is just flat out bad. They turned sextants into work, now you can't just roll sextants, you have to find them in groups or you're just not going to get drops, ever.

Hard coding RNG into every aspect of the game is pretty shitty, unfun, unfair, and far too limiting.

Limiting is what GGG wants. They don't want us farming level 82 maps, they don't want us having great gear, they don't want items being common.. They just want to limit us so badly that there is no enjoyment left

Ah yes I was wondering if Path of Limitations got any better with all these patches. Seems like a no.