Changes to evasion need to be addressed

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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:

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DeathMongger#5825 wrote:

Yeah that is the somewhat oversimplified solution but it becomes borderline unrealistic on high density maps especially now that clear speed is halfed but you are entitled to your opinion. I personally believe that acrobatics should be useful prior to getting your end-endgame gear but to each their own.

The problem with that, is Acrobatics quite literally reads "-75% evasion, evasion is now immunity to everything except debuffs"

Which means if you add enough HP or ES with that, unless you are playing with your monitor off, you don't need anything else but that and damage in softcore, if you can get enough evasion, you can completely ignore every mechanic in the game save a few (that are otherwise trivial regardless). That to me, screams late game dream. The fact it has a meaningful downside/ high investment means it doesn't have to be completely removed from the game.

Evasion was pretty busted 0.1, and it is still pretty good in 0.2.

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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:

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DeathMongger#5825 wrote:

Yeah that is the somewhat oversimplified solution but it becomes borderline unrealistic on high density maps especially now that clear speed is halfed but you are entitled to your opinion. I personally believe that acrobatics should be useful prior to getting your end-endgame gear but to each their own.

The problem with that, is Acrobatics quite literally reads "-75% evasion, evasion is now immunity to everything except debuffs"

Which means if you add enough HP or ES with that, unless you are playing with your monitor off, you don't need anything else but that and damage in softcore, if you can get enough evasion, you can completely ignore every mechanic in the game save a few (that are otherwise trivial regardless). That to me, screams late game dream. The fact it has a meaningful downside/ high investment means it doesn't have to be completely removed from the game.

Evasion was pretty busted 0.1, and it is still pretty good in 0.2.

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cavexs#4102 wrote:

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AverBeg7#1689 wrote:

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DeathMongger#5825 wrote:

Yeah that is the somewhat oversimplified solution but it becomes borderline unrealistic on high density maps especially now that clear speed is halfed but you are entitled to your opinion. I personally believe that acrobatics should be useful prior to getting your end-endgame gear but to each their own.

The problem with that, is Acrobatics quite literally reads "-75% evasion, evasion is now immunity to everything except debuffs"

Which means if you add enough HP or ES with that, unless you are playing with your monitor off, you don't need anything else but that and damage in softcore, if you can get enough evasion, you can completely ignore every mechanic in the game save a few (that are otherwise trivial regardless). That to me, screams late game dream. The fact it has a meaningful downside/ high investment means it doesn't have to be completely removed from the game.

Evasion was pretty busted 0.1, and it is still pretty good in 0.2.

I mean I get the point but even last season the question was do you go Acrobatics and light ES or hybrid without Acrobatics. You have a chance to avoid everything in a lot of cases but because there is only life after that and not much mitigation you ended up with the same EHP like ES builds with the downside of being a slot machine.
Evasion as single defensive layer is not enough for most players and for now I prefer having 5k life and ES combined without too much effort over 70÷ Evasion with Acrobatics with highly investing into gear. Acrobatics needs 4 times the Evasion to pop off and for that also should feel the same like multiple defense layers.

In my opinion it can and will not stay like that. Either you buff it or you nerf ES to the same EHP, which technically means everybody has no defense layers. I prefer do first and buff armour to that point also.