Consider merge PoE 1 and PoE 2 as told back in Exilecon1.

It's a Forum Thread man... just let it play out... ;)

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alhazred70#2994 wrote:

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Valmar#3550 wrote:

Just as you said years ago.

ONE GAME, TWO CAMPAIGNS.

Keep PoE1 system (gems, sockets, crafting, mechanics, trials/lab), which is clearly the one working and with more and better content. Add to it the PoE2 classes, the new campaign, visuals, etc. Get rid of anything else, it's not working as good as in PoE1.

And thats it. Win-win situation for everybody.

And the good news is you are still on time for that before screwing both games for good as it seems honestly. Future doesnt look good with both games coexisting.

Imagine thinking that the game thats aproximately 5 to 6 times more popular in month 2 than most any POE1 league is the one they should gut and fold into the less successful game...

Look its fine that you prefer POE1's faster space ship shooter gameplay. But suggesting that 2 shouldn;t continue to be its own thing is just a completely out to lunch take.

It isn't "more successful" because of a high player count. That's simplistic thinking.

You have to think of it like a business.

What's more valuable? A product that sells once for a high price and then disappoints customers who in response never buy from your company again, or a product that a smaller number of people subscribe to for a decade consistent that then ... ALLOWS YOU TO LAUNCH A PRODUCT THAT MORE PEOPLE BUY AT A HIGHER PRICE.


I'm not agreeing with the guy saying the games should merge, but PoE 2 was built on the back of PoE 1. Saying it's "more successful" when it couldn't exist without poe1 and also has been alive for less than a year vs over a decade is asinine

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alhazred70#2994 wrote:

I want what GGG sold POE2 as and nailed in the campaign.

I do not want POE2 to become the mindless 1 button cookie clicker that POE1 is.

What a massive joke POE2 would be if they just have two of the same game running alternating leagues. it would literally be stupid for GGG not to try and capture a wider audence than just the zoomer niche they've accidentally appealed to.

They can't release a POE1 league fast enough, its obvious that POE2 attracted a very large number of players who want something more than POE1 offers. While also turning off POE1 zoomers.

Its also kinda obvious that the zoomers are the niche audience considering the numbers.

You are the minority, zoom isn't niche, the only reason this game sees more players is because it's not a decade old kiddo

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NewAxProductions#3692 wrote:

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alhazred70#2994 wrote:

I want what GGG sold POE2 as and nailed in the campaign.

I do not want POE2 to become the mindless 1 button cookie clicker that POE1 is.

What a massive joke POE2 would be if they just have two of the same game running alternating leagues. it would literally be stupid for GGG not to try and capture a wider audence than just the zoomer niche they've accidentally appealed to.

They can't release a POE1 league fast enough, its obvious that POE2 attracted a very large number of players who want something more than POE1 offers. While also turning off POE1 zoomers.

Its also kinda obvious that the zoomers are the niche audience considering the numbers.

You are the minority, zoom isn't niche, the only reason this game sees more players is because it's not a decade old kiddo

Don't forget the massive marketing budget and pushing all the twitch drops for each and every patch.

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NewAxProductions#3692 wrote:

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alhazred70#2994 wrote:

I want what GGG sold POE2 as and nailed in the campaign.

I do not want POE2 to become the mindless 1 button cookie clicker that POE1 is.

What a massive joke POE2 would be if they just have two of the same game running alternating leagues. it would literally be stupid for GGG not to try and capture a wider audence than just the zoomer niche they've accidentally appealed to.

They can't release a POE1 league fast enough, its obvious that POE2 attracted a very large number of players who want something more than POE1 offers. While also turning off POE1 zoomers.

Its also kinda obvious that the zoomers are the niche audience considering the numbers.

You are the minority, zoom isn't niche, the only reason this game sees more players is because it's not a decade old kiddo

cope however you need to.

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Gkek#1581 wrote:

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alhazred70#2994 wrote:

Imagine thinking that the game thats aproximately 5 to 6 times more popular

It isn't "more successful" because of a high player count. That's simplistic thinking.

You have to think of it like a business.

What's more valuable? A product that sells once for a high price and then disappoints customers who in response never buy from your company again, or a product that a smaller number of people subscribe to for a decade consistent that then ... ALLOWS YOU TO LAUNCH A PRODUCT THAT MORE PEOPLE BUY AT A HIGHER PRICE.


I'm not agreeing with the guy saying the games should merge, but PoE 2 was built on the back of PoE 1. Saying it's "more successful" when it couldn't exist without poe1 and also has been alive for less than a year vs over a decade is asinine

i was talking about popularity currently as a metric which is why i bolded that in the quote.

in any case i think they have different pools of players who want differing things, I base that on listening to them, reading them and ultimately noting how they react to the differences in the games. Someone like Quin or that Talkative tri dude for example versus someone like Ben, rue or Tuna or other zoomy zoomy guy.

There are people who want their Dungeon delving hack and slash game to not devolve into a space ship shooter, or at least not feel like pedaling a tricycle up a mountain if you play a build that isn't more like a space ship than a sword swinging barbarian.

There's plenty of evidence for this, you mostly have to look outside of the hyper niche POE1 cookie clicker gameplay lovers to find those opinions though. Ppl like the dropped frames guys, Diablo 2 die hards like MrLlamaSC people who just can't get into POE1 from D3 and D4 tend to share the opinion that POE1 looks and play really really dumb at endgame.

Not the right time or right state of the game for that step, for sure.

As someone who played both games for a solid amount of time thanks but no thanks. POE 2 is just better in every sense.


Let the POE 1 veterns have their POE 1 and let us other players have POE 2.