Quarter Staff during the first 10 levels. An honest review.

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DracoNB#3628 wrote:

This is early access feedback. Its not build guides.

Monk early game is very awful. I didn't know how to get charges for my bell until I realized that I had to use the basic attack and ignore my skills to use it, which just felt wrong.

Most people recommend using a bow or another non-staff weapon shows how bad the new player experience is with Monks and should be changed. Glacial is good for early ranged damage but there isn't a solid melee attack until 14 and you can pick up ice strike. Many people won't last that long if they don't like the class and don't want to use a bow / wand instead.

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draco359#5475 wrote:

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auspexa#1404 wrote:

you don't even grab any staff related passive until higher levels

equip a crossbow and call it a day until level 20s

That's bad design imho due to several reasons.

1)RPGs are partly about a power fantasy. If you go through the hassle of starting the game as a monk and passing the tutorial, then at that point you are invested in the power fantasies provided by that class.

2)When the tutorial gives you a specific weapon, that is the developers way of saying that it's important for the class fantasy. Same for the skills it recommends as part of the tutorial.

3)As a new player, if the tools given to you by the devs, don't work as intended, what will most likely is, you will refund the game and assume the game is made by people who don't understand what it takes to make a good RPG of any kind.

Crossbow, is a few steps away from the class fantasy proposed by something like monk. Most RPG enthusiasts will not be motivated to go outside the class fantasies presented for games they are trying out.

So again, if as a dev, you fail to implement a successful interpretation of a game fantasy, then your whole game is pretty much a failure at this point, since it fails to do the basics properly.

At this point, I am pretty sure, no one will stick with Monk to see if it works with a Crossbow and either roll a different character, or just refund.

4)This is EA. If issues like this aren't solved during these inception phases, then the game will fail to appeal to people who aren't familiar with PoE brand.

The worst thing you can do to an RPG is what Digital Extremes did to Warframe, make a game that is so twisted and overloaded with details, that you need a Wikipedia site rolling in tandem with the game, so you can figure out how to enjoy the game, without making too many mistakes which will cause your game experiences to be bad.

5)I'm not saying it's not doable to finish Act 1 with the Quarterstaff. I'm saying I've hit one too many trap options in Act 1 and that damaged my ability to enjoy the leveling process during Act 1.

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This is factually incorrect. Any melee hit you do whether it be with a skill or basic attack will build combo for your bell. Im running ice strike on my monk and i build combo for my bell fast using my main skill.

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draco359#5475 wrote:

That's bad design imho due to several reasons.

1)RPGs are partly about a power fantasy. If you go through the hassle of starting the game as a monk and passing the tutorial, then at that point you are invested in the power fantasies provided by that class.

2)When the tutorial gives you a specific weapon, that is the developers way of saying that it's important for the class fantasy. Same for the skills it recommends as part of the tutorial.

3)As a new player, if the tools given to you by the devs, don't work as intended, what will most likely is, you will refund the game and assume the game is made by people who don't understand what it takes to make a good RPG of any kind.

Crossbow, is a few steps away from the class fantasy proposed by something like monk. Most RPG enthusiasts will not be motivated to go outside the class fantasies presented for games they are trying out.

So again, if as a dev, you fail to implement a successful interpretation of a game fantasy, then your whole game is pretty much a failure at this point, since it fails to do the basics properly.

At this point, I am pretty sure, no one will stick with Monk to see if it works with a Crossbow and either roll a different character, or just refund.

4)This is EA. If issues like this aren't solved during these inception phases, then the game will fail to appeal to people who aren't familiar with PoE brand.

The worst thing you can do to an RPG is what Digital Extremes did to Warframe, make a game that is so twisted and overloaded with details, that you need a Wikipedia site rolling in tandem with the game, so you can figure out how to enjoy the game, without making too many mistakes which will cause your game experiences to be bad.

5)I'm not saying it's not doable to finish Act 1 with the Quarterstaff. I'm saying I've hit one too many trap options in Act 1 and that damaged my ability to enjoy the leveling process during Act 1.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 wrote:

1 - get that Skyrim shit outta here

2-4 You can play with a QStaff, nothing is stopping you.