Skill levels gated behind RnG ???

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coyl#1779 wrote:

Now 20 lvl gems drop only on areas with lvl 82, such as T16+2 maps or +2 difficulty runs of twisted domain, logbooks, maybe arbiter as well

Not true at all, my first (and only) dropped in a plain old T15 area. No irradiation, no corruption.

So they definitely can drop in at least T15, but very very rare to do so.

Bigger thing is, what does it matter? There is nothing in the game (so far) that requires you to have gem level 20. It's a min/max goal, which is 100% fine to be extremely rare IMO.

You drop so many 18 (and later on 19 if you push more) that it's not a big issue. If they were overall very rare (not just the highest tiers) then I'd agree it's an issue.

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

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coyl#1779 wrote:

Now 20 lvl gems drop only on areas with lvl 82, such as T16+2 maps or +2 difficulty runs of twisted domain, logbooks, maybe arbiter as well

Not true at all, my first (and only) dropped in a plain old T15 area. No irradiation, no corruption.

So they definitely can drop in at least T15, but very very rare to do so.

Bigger thing is, what does it matter? There is nothing in the game (so far) that requires you to have gem level 20. It's a min/max goal, which is 100% fine to be extremely rare IMO.

You drop so many 18 (and later on 19 if you push more) that it's not a big issue. If they were overall very rare (not just the highest tiers) then I'd agree it's an issue.

Base skill lvls should not be rng based at all, min maxing comes from gear and corruption mods but having base skill lvls rng based is kind of cringe and playing minion builds you definitely want as high as possible skill lvl since it very much scales their life and defences too. On this matter i actually like the poe 1 gem system better

The game is still in early access. They already said they will continue to fix the maps, the mods, the mobs and everything else. Also, with a fixed economy, you will be able to buy and upgrade your build.

If you are not happy, come back later when more patches are out.

If it was me, I would discard any complaints that are not game breaking until the official release.

Just add some more bonus content in acts to get guranteed gems.

I saw Mathil getting lvl 11 gems at apex of filth and my poor sorc at 45 didnt drop a single lvl 11 gem. Not having access to comet stopped that char cold in its tracks until my next few characters could progress further and drop some.

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Alexandra_Momo#4012 wrote:

The game is still in early access. They already said they will continue to fix the maps, the mods, the mobs and everything else. Also, with a fixed economy, you will be able to buy and upgrade your build.

If you are not happy, come back later when more patches are out.

If it was me, I would discard any complaints that are not game breaking until the official release.

We all know its EA and noone talked about being unhappy with the game overall but this is a feedback forum very much intended as such and my feedback here is that base gem lvls should never be rng based. They should be able to lvl up along with ur char lvls just like it has always been in almost any arpg and definitely any arpg i have ever played.
As u might have noticed from the recent pod cast they actually use this feedback for development during EA and many of my concerns was addressed during this live stream and it was NOT only the game breaking stuff which kind of shows how much they actually listen to feedback regardless of being game breaking or simple Qol changes. You say buy and upgrade your build but as u might know some people play SSF and having base skill/gem lvls gated behind rng is absolutely not my favorite design choice of all time and even worse for people playing SSF.
Bottom line is gems should be able to lvl regardless of rng and any +skills beyond this point should come from gear and corruption mods. This was what previously allowed people to return to lower tier content and gain a few extra lvls and gem lvls before returning to the higher tier content that they might not have been able to run otherwise