Life vs energy shield question

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 wrote:

so explain to me why my life bar drains underneath my ES

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 wrote:

so why say that ES is OP if it's CI that's the problem.

in my opinion its the untargetable meat patties that follow you around that are the problem.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 wrote:

so why say that ES is OP if it's CI that's the problem.

in my opinion its the untargetable meat patties that follow you around that are the problem.

Because MoM can do the same thing

Or a single mod on your chest piece can reduce their duration by half

Or you can have high enough ailment threshold based on energy shield that they don’t even apply

Or you have charms for them


There’s a few reasons ES is the problem outside of CI


Not knowing these is pretty baffling

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 wrote:

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 wrote:

so why say that ES is OP if it's CI that's the problem.

in my opinion its the untargetable meat patties that follow you around that are the problem.

Because MoM can do the same thing

Or a single mod on your chest piece can reduce their duration by half

Or you can have high enough ailment threshold based on energy shield that they don’t even apply

Or you have charms for them


There’s a few reasons ES is the problem outside of CI


Not knowing these is pretty baffling

Ok so do you think they should nerf ES then and leave health the same?
how should they nerf it? on the passive tree or in items?

I think people will still complain about health either way because they're dying at high levels and losing hours of XP.

Spoiler

•CI is too powerful. Should maybe just remove the chaos damage penalty not completely be immune to it...

Bleed should still work as well on energy shield itself. Not be immune to bleed.

•MoM, not even POE1 gives you 100% from MoM. Im not sure why POE2 does. Its stupid broken with mana remnants.


•Recharge/Start of Recharge. These nodes need completely gutted HARD.

This has to be the most broken part of the entire skill tree right here:


You get access to all within a few travel nodes

1) Recharge
2) Start of charge
Both in the same cluster on top of eachother WHY???
3) Massive ES with even more 2 entire travel nodes from that jewel socket
4) Full thresh immune. Stun and ailment.
Both in the same cluster on top of %Increased ES THREE TIMES WHY???
5) Jewel Socket
6) New Armour/ES Hybrid cluster, which is completely busted. CAN YA GUESS WHAT MODS ARE INSIDE THAT CLUSTER?

OH LOOK MORE RECHARGE RATE. AND % ES.

7) MoM
8) And a bunch of damage in every direction for every archetype. Even minions lmfao


Anyone who plays this part of the tree, if they dont come up here. Are trolling. Or intentionally trying to make their character worse/fair.


These things should be an actual investment to get all of these mechanics. And you shouldnt GET so much either. The values are too high on recharge/start of recharge.

On a single mod on a pair of boots you can get fucking 40% ES recharge rate. Thats how ridiculous this is. And these stupid nodes are all next to your %ES nodes on the tree, you dont have to travel at all for these.

Comparatively, regen for Armour based builds. You have to actually travel to invest and sacrafice for regen, the nodes are so far out of the way that theres only 1 cluster worth going to. And it comes with HEAVY sacrifice. The others arent even worth going for.

This cluster seen here:

With its 10% increased small nodes and the notable. I have to spend 2 travel nodes and then 4 points to get the actual regen from this.

You get like 20 life regen on average for a mod roll if you have space for it.


•Convalescences+second wind

No you dont get second wind with this mechanic. Its a joke, you get one charge of this. And up its spirit cost as well. 30?

30 spirit for full recovery on your massive ES pool? And then you can use it twice?

No. Thats just blatantly broken.