Losing an entire map when you die feels terrible

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RandomPerson#6572 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

I have not died to a random one-shot since they fixed the chaos damage and removed the chaos bomb on death. Every death is one I knew was likely to happen, but I went for it anyway.

You aren't really losing the map, you lost the entry token (which drop quite easily, just pulled 8 T15 out of one map). You lost the bonus content that you get if you completed it on the first try. You did get to keep anything you had already picked up.

And before some idiots start talking about hardcore, there is NOTHING hardcore about this mechanic or xp loss on death. Softcore does not mean zero consequence for failure. Your character is not being deleted or removed from the league, it is not hardcore.

I have zero desire for your input on this, or anything ever tbh. This is feedback for the devs. Not "Git Gud" basement dwellers who no life one game.

This is a feedback forum, if you don't want other people commenting I suggest you just send GGG an email.

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

This is a feedback forum, if you don't want other people commenting I suggest you just send GGG an email.

Yea positive feedback or even criticism that isn't "git gud you're an idiot." Which was literally your response.

No one cares for takes like yours. No one here is talking to people like you. You're just sand everyone is trying to wash out.

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RandomPerson#6572 wrote:

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

This is a feedback forum, if you don't want other people commenting I suggest you just send GGG an email.

Yea positive feedback or even criticism that isn't "git gud you're an idiot." Which was literally your response.

No one cares for takes like yours. No one here is talking to people like you. You're just sand everyone is trying to wash out.

Funny, I don't recall saying git gud at all. In fact, didn't say anything even close to it. Apparently, it literally was not my response.

It sucks because my game crashes when I hit the direct minion key and I lose the map from it. It just happened after me avoiding hitting it for so long. I made a topic about it too.

I get on and play until I die and log off. Mapping is so unrewarding as it is. Then to just lose everything playing this hardcoreish crap is just a horrible experience.

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Valsacar#0268 wrote:

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HeIrAkI#7194 wrote:

I don't like loosing everything when you die in map either.

Currently we loose:
1. XP
2. All the loot on the ground that is not picked up
3. All portals
4. the waystone we used to open the map.

This is a bit to punshing indeed. I would rather see the portal stays and that you can complete the map. Mechanics in the map can be disabled if you die. damaged mobs can reset health and so on. but please do not close all portals.

1. Yes, you lose 10% of xp (if you are over level... 70 I believe).
2. You didn't lose anything, it wasn't yours as you hadn't picked it up.
3. Portals aren't a thing of value, so you didn't lose anything.
4. Waystone sure, but that was the entry token to try and is extremely easy to replace.

So, didn't really lose much besides some xp.

1. yes 10% of xp. (harsh on 90+)
2. I killed the mob and have loot that was served to me for pick up. it is mine!
3. a portal is not a thing it is abstract, so is air. the value is not in coins.
4. Even if you can easily replace something you still have lost it.

agreed. i worked so hard to get some map and somehow got 1 shotted and boom!, whole map is lost. should be like poe 1. you get as many tries as the number of portals you have left..

first time I got a nicely modded, difficult T8 map. I'm always for a challenging game play. died and quickly found out, it was over....'cries'.. haha

I have consistently lost maps just from using the 'direct minion' key and crashing the game.

1 life for each map just compounds every single problem with the game.

I would love to find out who made this a mandate, because they really screwed up and need to take a break from game direction. Put the ego aside. Period.

If they want to keep 1 portal, I hope they at least introduce something that would allow us to use more than 1 portal if earned.

Say you fill a bar similar to delirium and when full, that allows you to use +1 portal, or revive a friend (so long as you aren't a full party to begin with). This creates a sense of urgency to get your friends up or allows maybe one more portal per map, if you've earned it.

The current system completely killed the mood for my casual friends - whom are new players, who have never played PoE 1. It hinders party play so heavily and creates a very punishing and un-fun environment when you want to play with friends. Of course solo is also a massive pain, but the system is currently encouraging people to not play with each other, because it sucks to sit there dead for 5-10 mins while someone finishes the map and loots everything.

Even fortnite recognized how bad this mistake was and added a way to revive dead squadmates - no one wants to sit there, not playing the game with their friends for 5-10 or more minutes.

Now imagine going for some end game boss without watching through an hour or youtube lessons on how to not die there...
Content should not demand that. which means there should be room for learning/error.