Is ES really too strong?
I have pretty bad gear and im sitting close to 11k ES. Without grim feast. How the heck are you at 5.5?
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I think the base amounts/mechanics of Energy Shield are 'probably' fine right now. My Monk's getting some decent gear now, but he's still at 3.2k energy shield (where my Titan warrior was with life with his early mapping gear).
The biggest problem I feel is if it is considered to be too good, is that there are some outlier abilities that make Energy Shield A LOT better. Grim Feast is notable, it basically completely negates Energy Shield's weakest point (no regeneration in active combat), it allows my monk to just zoom through maps without much threat until he gets to a boss. The other is blood mage can get a lot of cheap energy shield for 'free' by trading in a quarter of their HP. Considering how low the values on your armor pieces is vs. how high the +% passives are, getting another 500 flat energy shield to be multiplied 3-4 times is a lot. Life already deals with a lot of small hits pretty good however (especially with Cannibalism, which is basically Grim Feast without the overcap as a support gem for life builds). I think the only thing they really need is help against massive one-shottable hits and things might be fine enough. The trade off of life being easier to build for than ES but ES having higher potential yields is part of the PoE formula. |
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i have same combo on carcater, ci+mom+eb+archmage, and for real 11k es is really not possible for 2 reason:
- 1 make no sense ( yous dmg scale with mana cause archmage + node spell dmg for mana) - it's not possible to reach this amount with everglaz amulete. idk how it's possible to reach at least 5k mana without this amulet + 11k es with a good gear ( hum, not good at 10 mirror, but something like 20-50 div).(*) the nice thing to have 2 pools ( es and mana), you play as if you have only es and run out if empty. cause you drink mana so fast when cating , you really not trust this as efficient defense as pure mom. (*) have to check on caracter how many i have without amu and remove eb. ps: but for sure combo ci-mom-eb is nice to play.( i dream for this a long time in poe 1 :) edit: btw the grim feast is not a discuss subject, it's should be remove or rework. Last edited by laurent67#6296 on Jan 2, 2025, 4:32:36 AM
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just check on my carctere for data :
ci+mom+eb+archmage : 5.5k ES - 5k mana - 950 mana/s reg - spark tool tip: 34k dps if remove eb: 11k ES - 2.9k mana - 450 mana/s reg - saprk: 20.9k dps if remove eb+ever glaze :7.2k ES - 2.7k mana -330 mana/s reg - spark: 20k dps of course with a so low mana regen, you could NOT use archmage, so if i swith off: spark 6.4 k dps. well with a solid 6.5 k dps with 25/30 div gear, i mean i could hope finish a t1 or t2 map ! hahahaha btw i have actually 950 mana regen, and it's "ok", but with a so low amount i could not spam or i get oom in couple of second. and should use mana tempset boost with care or be oom in litteraly 4 sec. at this point i mean i never prsse mana potion button, it's totally useless. tldr : 11k ES build with mom -> glhf for make it work with less than 100 div invest.( in best case ^^) but at this point of investissment in a build you SHOULD litteraly could play as vampirer survivor god mod . edit: just thing about regen , so i could remove mom ? yep it's 50% less, so just *2 is not enough regen for make it work , 330 or 400 is too low. and i don't count all the cast on mech who actually not balance, but consider selfcast skill. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and yes , Es node in tree is too strong, for me change all +15% in +10% is ok. (or +8% like poe 1, i don't care). the real issue is : ARMOR sucks !! life as no way too ramp up !! armor should have a possibility to mitigate a part of elem dmg.( more than es , like node +% max res in start area or something ) Last edited by laurent67#6296 on Jan 2, 2025, 5:21:31 AM
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Strong, yes, too strong ? only because of grim feast.
Its just that the other defensive options are pale in comparison, that is why ES seems to be very strong while in reality, you can't just slap CI + ES and all gucchi. You still need to consider stun threshold / ailment threshold, while maintaining your effective dps and gameplay. Also, because of PoE 1 brain. More numbers = more good = hrr hrr = ES good big stonk. Try ES + EVA , stop thinking about your "EHP" , and use your spacebar. |
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